Booting into iceWM instead of KDE

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New install of 12.2 x86 (1 week old) and did some updates to yast,grub,udev, in the process it did do a intrid update. Now when I boot it goes to the iceWM vice KDE desktop. How do I get back to KDE ?

likely non needed ifo:
ASUS x401A-1 laptop
preinstalled Win 8
installed Ubuntu and openSuse via usb mbr, grub stick.
Was useing a usb stick with mbr grub x86_64–efi to boot into Ubuntu and openSuse with no problems.
enabled efi booting via Ubuntu before suse updates and problem.

thanks for any help.

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On 2013-01-14 18:06, LostFarmer wrote:
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> New install of 12.2 x86 (1 week old) and did some updates to
> yast,grub,udev, in the process it did do a intrid update. Now when I
> boot it goes to the iceWM vice KDE desktop. How do I get back to KDE ?

It remembers the last desktop you used. Simply log out, and log in again
choosing kde.

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Cheers/Saludos
Carlos E. R. (12.1 test at Minas-Anor)

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I have never seen iceWM before, and if I log out it takes me to a terminal screen. All I know how to do there is reboot. I never did log out of KDE, alwas shutdown or reboot.

If from the terninal screen, I can log into KDE, need to have the commands ,just know if I try ‘startx’ it pops up errors.

thanks.

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What do you mean with this?

BTW, the system does not boot in a desktop. The system boots and then you, or someone else, logs in into a desktop. An automatic login is also a login (as the expression clealty means).

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On 2013-01-14 19:26, hcvv wrote:
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> LostFarmer;2518282 Wrote:
>> …and did some updates to yast,grub,udev, in the process it did
>> do a intrid update. .
> What do you mean with this?
>
> BTW, the system does not boot in a desktop. The system boots and then
> you, or someone else, logs in into a desktop. An automatic login is also
> a login (as the expression clealty means).

Could he be in a failsafe mode? Because when he exits he gets into the
terminal, not kdm… Then KDE would be broken.

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Cheers/Saludos
Carlos E. R. (12.1 test at Minas-Anor)

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Couple of questions:

  • Videocard?
  • What happens if you login to the console with username and password, then do
su -c 'rckdm restart'
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I do not know. Do you understand what “a intrid update” is?

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I read it as a package update that triggers the making of a new initrd. If you watch an update going that shows up when mkinitrd is ran during package install.

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From a terminal startkde normally starts KDE.

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Aha, could true. But the whole “I did some uodates …” is a bit of a riddle to me. Why those “some updates” and not others. A rather undescriptive way of trying to convey a message to us :frowning:

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Will try to answer some questions first, forgive me if I do not use the correct wording.
I was tring to use yast to change from a usb stick ‘mbr’ booting to the correct EFI booting, but yast would not do it correct. Reading some post it looked like grub needed updated. Due to a slow internet yesterday decieded only to update yast,grub,udev. It took about 1 hour just for yast to do the update for package information (?). It wanted to update 50 or more items.

As for the intrid, the modification date and time is for time of the updates, not the date of install. Just what a intrid update does, no I have no idea.

su -c 'rckdm restart'

gives “if not a typo **”

startkde

gives ‘command not found’

the screen I boot into has “Welcome at linux -p78z.site”
upon log in, lower left "start " has “iceWM”.
select logout-
I get to: “Welcome to openSUSE 12.2 'Matis -kernel 3.4.6-2-desktop (tty1)” – type in my username/password
this is where I tried the above 2 commands. These 2 terminal commands then can be found in SUSE’s /home/.bash_history, when booted into Ubuntu.

If need be I will just do a clean install, again.

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I will have to do a clean install. Do not know just why this happened. I looked at /var/log/zypp/history, seen:

2013-01-13 15:39:31|remove |kdebase4-workspace-liboxygenstyle|4.8.4-2.3.1|x86_64|root@linux-p78z.site
2013-01-13 15:39:31|remove |kdebase4-workspace|4.8.4-2.3.1|x86_64|root@linux-p78z.site
2013-01-13 15:39:31|remove |kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE|12.2-6.2.4|x86_64|root@linux-p78z.site
plus many more. I did install kdebase4-workspace and some others and it will now log into KDE but to mush is missing.

Thanks for all your assistance but a clean install is best.

Just to try to say the steps that lead to the problem

ran yast and selected to update packages.
big list was returned, and I selected a few of them, the others it decieded I wanted to delete.

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You are one comparatively good ground
icewm is a full fledged desktop and it should does have YaST
Just add kde back there using package “patterns-openSUSE-kde4”
(OR)
from command mode you can run something like
"zypper in patterns-openSUSE-kde4"to get KDE back
best of luck.

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On 01/15/2013 04:16 AM, LostFarmer wrote:
> big list was returned, and I selected a few of them, the others it
> decieded I wanted to delete.

unless you are an absolute expert with openSUSE (not ‘just’ a Linux
expert) i’d suggest you not get in the habit of making decisions of
which package to allow YaST to install, and which to not…

suggest you follow the repo use guidelines laid out in the paragraph
beginning with “IMPORTANT” in this post http://tinyurl.com/33qc9vu and
then disable apper and once or more per week open YaST Online Update
(NOT Software Management) or “zypper patch” (not ‘zypper up’ and never
‘zypper dup’ unless you wanna Tumbleweed) and let it install everything
listed…

and, if you need to add new applications, do that via Software Mangement
or “zypper in”…

then, when you become an openSUSE expert you might wanna do
otherwise…(i am not an expert, only used it since 9.x)

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dd http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

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I was away for some time (need sleep now and then) and will not interupt the ongoing discussion.

But please, when you puit some piece of computer session betrween CODE tags, do so completley. Not only the command, but the prompt, the command , the output, the next prompt. Do not explain “gives …”, we will see that when you posts it complete. Of course this is impossoble when you are at the real console, but then try to copy as good as possible.

And about the correct wording. My remark has nothing to do with you using the wrong word and I forgiving. It has to to with the fact that you apparently do not understand the difference between booting and loging in. And it is very important that you do understand. Without you understanding this, you will not understand that Unix/Linux is a multi-user system. And you will not understand many things that are only logical when you do understand this.

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On 2013-01-15 11:06, hcvv wrote:

> But please, when you puit some piece of computer session betrween CODE
> tags, do so completley. Not only the command, but the prompt, the
> command , the output, the next prompt. Do not explain “gives …”, we
> will see that when you posts it complete. Of course this is impossoble
> when you are at the real console, but then try to copy as good as
> possible.

To copy and paste text from/to the “real text console” you have to start
service gpm:


rcstart gpm

If it is not configured you will get this:


> Minas-Anor:~ # rcgpm start
> Neither the variables MOUSEDEVICE and MOUSETYPE nor the variable GPM_PARAM
> is set in /etc/sysconfig/mouse
> Run 'yast mouse' to set up gpm
> Minas-Anor:~ #

For example, for a touchpad you would typically edit in
“/etc/sysconfig/mouse” this line:


MOUSEDEVICE="/dev/input/mice"

and then start the service:


Minas-Anor:~ # rcgpm start
redirecting to systemctl
Minas-Anor:~ #

And then you can copy/paste at the virtual terminals, using the normal
mouse-click combinations. To paste into the forums, you would open an
editor like joe on another console and paste the text there.

Or you can open a text mode web-browser like links and access the forums
there, in text mode. I can testify that it opens, not that it works :slight_smile:

Or access the forums via nntp in text mode :-p

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Cheers/Saludos
Carlos E. R. (12.1 test at Minas-Anor)