Baloo Commands!

limo · June 20, 2024, 7:55pm

I just installed Tumbleweed, KDE and followed all defaults during installation.

I already have my files indexed and I could search for file content from Dolphin, I believe it is Baloo. Right?

But doing a command to get the baloo status I get:

limo@localhost:~> balooctl status

The program ‘balooctl’ can be found in the following package:

baloo5-file [ path: /usr/bin/balooctl, repository: download.opensuse.org-oss ]

Try installing with:
sudo zypper install baloo5-file

limo@localhost:~>

Anything wrong with my installation? I see the commands are there at SDB:Use balooctl command - openSUSE Wiki and balooctl status is there as I did it.

Any help highly appreciated.

snoopy · June 20, 2024, 9:24pm

Version number been bumped, so:

balooctl6 status

should work.

limo · June 21, 2024, 5:33am

thanks @snoopy
This worked.
But again, I found I am getting multiple search results all pointing for the same file.
I assume it is not supposed to snapshot my home folder.
What can I do to exclude my home folder from being snapshot and having this Baloo issue?

knurpht · June 21, 2024, 5:43am

You may have to rebuild the baloo index:

balooctl6 stop
rm -rf ~/.local/share/baloo
balooctl6 start

limo · June 21, 2024, 5:57am

Thanks @knurpht
But this just delete the current index that contains the duplicates, then reindex.
This does not exclude home from being snapshot!

I used some AI search and came to a solution I wonder if it will work. I am testing it now.

Simple the steps are:

add EXCLUDE_PATHS=“/home” to the file /etc/snapper/configs/root
restart snapper: sudo systemctl restart snapper-timeline.timer
balooctl6 disable
balooctl6 purge
-balooctl6 enable

I hope this will work and hope it will not affect booting from earlier snapshots!
I will test, reboot, snapshot,… etc and see how it goes and I will report back

hui · June 21, 2024, 5:59am

Why do you believe that snapper is related to baloo? That are completely different topics.

Search indexing:
Open Plasma systemsettings->Search" and remove /home from the indexing path

Snapshot:
/home is excluded by default

limo · June 21, 2024, 6:06am

The point is I want /home to be indexed. This is the main point. I have lots of pdf, books, research, and data, so I need it.
To update you guys, it seems it is not working as expected.

limo@localhost:~> balooctl6 status
Baloo File Indexer is running
Indexer state: Idle
Total files indexed: 2,404
Files waiting for content indexing: 0
Files failed to index: 0
Current size of index is 709.20 MiB
limo@localhost:~> balooctl6 check
Started search for unindexed files
limo@localhost:~> balooctl6 status
Baloo File Indexer is running
Indexer state: Indexing file content
Total files indexed: 3,590
Files waiting for content indexing: 1,086
Files failed to index: 0
Current size of index is 709.20 MiB
limo@localhost:~> balooctl6 status
Baloo File Indexer is running
Indexer state: Idle
Total files indexed: 3,590
Files waiting for content indexing: 0
Files failed to index: 0
Current size of index is 780.65 MiB
limo@localhost:~>

It seems to be reindexing the snapshot again!

I am thinking of reinstalling, and manually have a separate home partition. What file system should I make home so it does not get snapshot in any way?
I hope this will help. Would it help?

hui · June 21, 2024, 6:10am

Did you actually had a look into Plasma systemsettings? You can exclude the snapshot path from getting indexed…

limo · June 21, 2024, 6:20am

How can I do that?
This is my stuff:

limo@localhost:~> lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
nvme0n1 259:0 0 238.5G 0 disk
├─nvme0n1p1 259:1 0 256M 0 part /boot/efi
├─nvme0n1p2 259:2 0 236.2G 0 part /usr/local
│ /var
│ /srv
│ /root
│ /home
│ /opt
│ /boot/grub2/x86_64-efi
│ /boot/grub2/i386-pc
│ /.snapshots
│ /
└─nvme0n1p3 259:3 0 2G 0 part [SWAP]
limo@localhost:~>

My home folder is “/home’limo”
From inxi -Fxxx:

Drives:
Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 13.89 GiB (5.8%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: MZVLW256HEHP-000H1
size: 238.47 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: S340NA0JA92579
fw-rev: CXB73H1Q temp: 34.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 236.22 GiB used: 12.99 GiB (5.5%) fs: btrfs
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 4.3 MiB (1.7%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
ID-3: /home size: 236.22 GiB used: 12.99 GiB (5.5%) fs: btrfs
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-4: /opt size: 236.22 GiB used: 12.99 GiB (5.5%) fs: btrfs
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-5: /var size: 236.22 GiB used: 12.99 GiB (5.5%) fs: btrfs
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3

But I want to be sure that my /home/limo/ gets indexed, I just don’t want it to be snapshot.
I want to be still able to boot to earlier snapshots from Grub.

Sorry to bother you, but I am not that techie.
So please tell me what to do.

hcvv · June 21, 2024, 7:32am

To begin with, I do not use Baloo (I am not even sure it is running for me), so I may be utterly wrong.

But, I always thought that Baloo is part of the KDE desktop. And thus runs for the KDE desktop end-user. And thus will index files within that end-users home directory and not elsewhere. I would be really stunned if Baloo run by a user would (try to) index the data of other users.

limo · June 21, 2024, 9:17am

The problem is that it indexes each snapshot of home. So if I have 10 snapshots of home will get 10 results +1 original and all pointing to same file

hui · June 21, 2024, 9:27am

As already explained. You need to exclude the directory which you don’t want to index!
Simply exclude the directory where snapshots are stored!

gogalthorp · June 21, 2024, 12:33pm

You need to opt out to avoid indexing. The default is all things in.

knurpht · June 21, 2024, 3:00pm

You suffer from a severe misperception here. Baloo build a database, it zero relation to “snapshots”. Please read what the others write.

limo · June 28, 2024, 1:33pm

Just to update you guys.
I just reinstalled (fresh install), during installation I chose EXT4 for /home partition.

So, as I see, /home is not being snapshot as it is EXT4 not BTRFS.

Everything went fine.
I booted, created a text file with one unique word in it.
(I had to purge and restart Baloo, and it is baloo6 by the way not just baloo)
I checked snapshots, rebooted, searching, I am getting only one search result as it is supposed to be.
I am happy, everything is working as expected.
(Though I have a little issue about the sized dedicated to home, I will make another thread)

Thank you all for the wonderful Tumbleweed and wonderful support.
I am glad I am back home. (I said I started Linux with Suse 7.3 wayback in 2000)

system · July 5, 2024, 1:34pm

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