After 10 years of (mostly Debian related) Linux, this morning I did my first OpenSuse install (12.2). To avoid having to download twice (CD then updates) I did net install of a XFCE desktop. An hour or two later there were 145 updates…so much for the net install being current. After installing those 145 updates, I did the required reboot; now all I have is the top line of a GRUB menu–whereupon the system stalls.
That’s it…
Now what?
I tried the “rescue” boot on the netinstall CD—apparanty that does nothing boot to runlevel3, that’s all it did for me.
Need I re-download everything again…twice!?! Just to see if it’s repeatable?
Or, thow-in the towel & try Mint?
Really not impressed so far.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Next time, choose a more appropriate title such as “openSUSE 12.2 stalls at Grub menu after a net install of XFCE desktop + 145 updates” and start (or end) your post with “Are you kidding”?
I’m just saying that because:
you asked for suggestions.
I feel compassion for the poor innocent Internet users who are going to type “Are you kidding?” in google and find your post .
But of course, I’m just kidding (not sure I should actually).
On 01/18/2013 07:16 AM, LanceHaverkamp wrote:
> To avoid having to download twice (CD
> then updates) I did net install of a XFCE desktop.
you can’t (as you have now demonstrated to yourself) avoid the updates
no matter which path you take…because the initial install is from the
oss and non-oss repos…which are frozen at the initial version
release and never change…so, you get the install done and then do a
YaST Online Update and you are up to date…
as for “all I have is the top line of a GRUB menu–whereupon the system
stalls” i really don’t know what happened there but can guess that maybe you tried to install openSUSE along side some Debian version and
the old (or new) grub got hammered?? or, maybe just a hardware problem
and the posts of thousands of other Debian users in these forums who
also ran into unexpected trouble (by assuming incorrectly)…
by the way, about four or five years ago i decided to install and switch
to Debian (after having about 10 years in SUSE, openSUSE, Red Hat,
Fedora, Mandrake and others) and after extreme frustration in all the
differences, gave up…so, if you have to go to Mint, do that…use
what works.
on the other hand, with some patience there are some here who can
probably figure out why you see only a grub line…strange!
> I tried the “rescue” boot on the netinstall CD—apparanty that does
> nothing boot to runlevel3, that’s all it did for me.
Yes, the automatic repair was removed years ago. No one volunteered to
maintain it.
> Need I re-download everything again…twice!?! Just to see if it’s
> repeatable?
You can describe the grub setup and problem and wait till the grub
experts here help you - but with a subject line like that…
> Or thow-in the towel & try Mint?
I would not have used a net install for the first install of an unknown
distro. The live CD is nice, can be used for testing prior to install,
and for repairs after.
> Really not impressed so far.
I’m not impressed by Debian either :-p
(I would have many problems installing it, as it is unfamiliar to me)
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
>
> Next time, if there is one, can I suggest:
> Click the Booting heading here: http://tinyurl.com/bqdxz4p
>
> Set like:
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Grub2_Project/grub2-set.png
>
>
This may not be correct place to ask this but I’m getting ready to
install 12.3 MS?. In your recommadations (you show mbr and /root checked
(above link)? I have been using /boot, Is this not good anymore?
That is an interesting screen shot as I did not know you could install the bootloader to all those places at once or that may cause problems.
In answer to your exact question, I do not think openSUSE creates a seperate /boot partition as part of the default install. Otherwise if you create it during installation it should work fine.
>
> upscope;2519579 Wrote:
>> caf4926 wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Next time, if there is one, can I suggest:
>> > Click the Booting heading here: http://tinyurl.com/bqdxz4p
>> >
>> > Set like:
>> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Grub2_Project/grub2-set.png
>> >
>> >
>> This may not be correct place to ask this but I’m getting ready to
>> install 12.3 MS?. In your recommadations (you show mbr and /root
>> checked
>> (above link)? I have been using /boot, Is this not good anymore?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Russ
>> –
>> openSUSE 12.2(Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop x86_64)|
>> KDE 4.9.5 “release 3”|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce
>> 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60)
>
> That is an interesting screen shot as I did not know you could install
> the bootloader to all those places at once or that may cause problems.
> In answer to your exact question, I do not think openSUSE creates a
> seperate /boot partition as part of the default install. Otherwise if
> you create it during installation it should work fine.
>
>
No openSUSE does not create the /boot by default. I create it during the
install process. Have for years with no problems. Haven’t used the mbr
except to put generic code there. i do not have windows on my system
except as a guest on virtualbox so its not initally booted thru the mbr.
The bootloader caught my eye with all those locations checked,thats why
I asked.
For those suggusting the DVD install, I had no trouble whatsoever with the net install. I liked SUSE at boot, I was just really ticked-off that the very first upgrade bricked grub. As en end-user, rather than a hobbyist, this kind of stuff is basically non-fixable.
