fperal
June 21, 2023, 1:42pm
1
I’m going to upgrade MB, uP and memory.
I use Opensuse Leap 15.4 now on a M2, with a two monitor system and Plasma and I have a Nvidia card (NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 720]).
I’m thinking on this system
Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2
Corsair Vengance LPX DDR4 3200 PC4-25600 (2x8GB)
AMD Ryzen5 5600X and reuse my NVIDIA graphics card or AMD Ryzen5 5600G and use its ATI Radeon embedded card
Both processors have similar price although one has the integrated GPU and the other doesn’t.
I know that Nvidia drivers from the nvidia repo work fine, but I remember having a lot of problems with ATI drivers., but it was some years ago.
Can you share your experience with this and give some advice?
thanks
Upgraded infamous host erlangen from 6700K to 5600X: Seeking advice on desktop purchase - #4 by karlmistelberger
Reconfigured due to some issues from 5600X to 5700G:
root@freiburg: ~
# inxi -zFm
System:
Kernel: 6.3.7-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty pts/1 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed
20230620
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B450 Pro4 R2.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends
v: P5.30 date: 03/01/2022
Memory:
System RAM: available: 62.15 GiB used: 1.79 GiB (2.9%)
Array-1: capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 EC: None
Device-1: DIMM 0 type: no module installed
Device-2: DIMM 1 type: DDR4 size: 32 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s
Device-3: DIMM 0 type: no module installed
Device-4: DIMM 1 type: DDR4 size: 32 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s
CPU:
Info: 8-core model: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
L2: 4 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2450 min/max: 1400/4672 cores: 1: 3800 2: 3800 3: 3800 4: 1400 5: 1400
6: 1400 7: 3800 8: 3800 9: 1400 10: 1400 11: 1400 12: 1400 13: 3800 14: 1400 15: 3800 16: 1400
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Cezanne [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Mobile Series] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.org v: 1.21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.1.2 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu tty: 236x54
API: OpenGL Message: GL data unavailable in console for root.
Audio:
Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
API: ALSA v: k6.3.7-1-default status: kernel-api
Network:
Device-1: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi
IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169
IF: enp8s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface driver: btusb type: USB
Report: rfkill ID: hci0 state: up address: see --recommends
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.88 TiB used: 31.87 GiB (1.7%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: Extreme size: 58.44 GiB type: USB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 1.82 TiB used: 31.87 GiB (1.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 640 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
ID-3: /home size: 1.82 TiB used: 31.87 GiB (1.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-4: /opt size: 1.82 TiB used: 31.87 GiB (1.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-5: /var size: 1.82 TiB used: 31.87 GiB (1.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 31.0 C mobo: 32.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 34.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 0 fan-2: 725 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 622 fan-5: 634
Info:
Processes: 342 Uptime: 0h 44m Init: systemd Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.27
root@freiburg: ~
#
@fperal the GT720 is EOL… what is a M2?
What are you end uses? TBH, I’m liking these little Beelink devices, I have an Mini S version quad core N100 (Gen 12, no hyperthreading) with intel GPU (encoders/decoders huc/guc ready), only downside at present is the wifi card (but I don’t need) isn’t working on MicroOS.
System:
Kernel: 6.3.7-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.1.1 Console: pty pts/0
Distro: openSUSE MicroOS
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: AZW model: MINI S v: 10 serial: N/A UEFI: American Megatrends LLC.
v: ADLNV104 date: 02/06/2023
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel N100 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Alder Lake rev: 0 cache: L1: 384 KiB
L2: 2 MiB L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 775 high: 800 min/max: 700/3400 cores: 1: 700 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800
bogomips: 6451
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-N [UHD Graphics] driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-12.2 ports:
active: HDMI-A-1 empty: HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:46d1
Display: server: No display server data found. Headless machine? tty: 114x29
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 model: AAA res: 1920x1080
API: N/A Message: No display API data available in console. Headless machine?
Audio:
Device-1: Intel driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:54c8
API: ALSA v: k6.3.7-1-default status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.71 status: n/a (root, process) with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: off
Network:
Device-1: Intel driver: N/A port: N/A bus-ID: 00:14.3 chip-ID: 8086:54f0
Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie:
speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: N/A driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 1-10:3
chip-ID: 8087:0026
Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down bt-service: not found rfk-block: hardware: no
software: no address: see --recommends
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 704.24 GiB used: 5.25 GiB (0.7%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Silicon Power model: SPCC M.2 PCIe SSD size: 238.47 GiB
speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> temp: 39.9 C
ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 size: 465.76 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 238.45 GiB used: 5.25 GiB (2.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 19.9 MiB used: 6.5 MiB (32.5%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-3: /home size: 238.45 GiB used: 5.25 GiB (2.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
ID-4: /opt size: 238.45 GiB used: 5.25 GiB (2.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
ID-5: /tmp size: 238.45 GiB used: 5.25 GiB (2.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
ID-6: /var size: 238.45 GiB used: 5.25 GiB (2.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 161 Uptime: 2h 35m Memory: available: 15.39 GiB used: 1.04 GiB (6.8%) Init: systemd
v: 253 default: multi-user Compilers: N/A Packages: pm: rpm pkgs: N/A note: see --rpm
Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 running-in: pty pts/0 inxi: 3.3.27
rogerf
June 21, 2023, 2:47pm
4
Hi, I just build a new mini ITX pc with the below spec:
MB: ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-I
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 5200MHz 32GB
DISK: Corsair MP600 PRO XT M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB
OS: openSuse TW
I find this spec to perform very well. I do not do any gaming, but the graphic performance of Ryzen CPU seems to be good. I do use Google maps 3D a lot, and in 4K full screen mode it is quite smooth, but you can see the framrate is slightly lower than if I reduce the window size to about 70% of full screen where it is smooth. In HD it is very smooth. For daily work, Libre Office, internet, email whatever, the performance is a bit overkill, but nice to have as well. I do some 4K video editing for privat use, this works great but It uses a lot of RAM, so 32GB was not wasted.
No problem with hardware vs TW, all seems supported, no issues at all. I first used Linux Mint, but the old kernel and graphic drivers gave a really poor graphic performance, which is also the reason I discovered openSuse.
I would expect your spec to perform a bit less, but it all depends what you will be using it for.
/rogerf
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fperal
June 21, 2023, 4:46pm
5
You mean that in next release of OpenSuse there will be no drivers for this card?
A SSD disk like this
@fperal the device will be EOL next year, so might be OK for Leap 15.6, but I would not hold my breath…
The life cycle for Nvidia is 10 years… the G03 driver is there, so you should be fine for Leap 15.5.
fperal
June 21, 2023, 5:27pm
7
I use it for normal desktop, with desktop effects, not gaming.
Use of several programs all together, virtual machines…
fperal
June 21, 2023, 5:27pm
8
malcolmlewis:
@fperal the device will be EOL next year, so might be OK for Leap 15.6, but I would not hold my breath…
The life cycle for Nvidia is 10 years… the G03 driver is there, so you should be fine for Leap 15.5.
I’m using G04 for that card
fperal
June 21, 2023, 5:32pm
9
I can’t see much difference between 5600X and 5600G and the price is the same (in theory 5600X is more expensive) so maybe I can buy 5600G and I have two options:
Use it with the internal GPU
disable the internal GPU and use the Nvidia card
hui
June 21, 2023, 5:37pm
10
Normally iGPUs are less powerfull than a dedicated graphics card. But in your case, the iGPU of the Ryzen 5 5600G beats the performance of your antique GT 720 in all benchmarks. So i would go for the Ryzen 5 5600G
What matters (for me):
Price (€,$)
Performance CPU Mark
Idle Power (measured at the power cord)
Full Power (measured at the power cord)
Hardware Upgradability
Cooling
ATX is bulky. However it shines when optimizing all of the above.