12.2 and 12.3 whats new ?????? broken ssd's

after a lot of troubles with 12.3 and the raid0 on 2 ssd 64gb sata all thing went as qiuck as wetsand through a straw had to lowlevel erase then in order to use then again

so 12.3 goodby and 12.2 installed the drives were not useable any more format errors etc etc

so installed 2 new ssd Samsung M5S 120gb sata6 each
dit a lowlevel erase on the drives through the AMD raid software in bios

Installed 12.2 all the updates kernel 3.8.5.1.1 Kde 10.11 in repositoiries/printing New Libre office
Yast updated from repositorie working as normal

When i now change 12.2 to 12.3 in Index of /distribution/12.2/repo/oss in Yast software repositories
and want to upgrade 12.2 in 12.3 for those parts which are newer I only get 300 to update

So what is 12.3 just a bug release ???

Why did it take that long to release then and in the state it is now
no install on a mobo with AMD-raid sofware in bios Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ 990FX 4xDDR3 ATX sata6
Why not a upgrade on 12.2

I dont install 12.3 its exit stage left.

Keep 12.2 till there is a true NEW release 13.1 or so.

Doing something wrong if you only see 300 updates. Since you never said what you where doing it is hard to say what you are doing wrong.

But to do a upgrade to 12.3 you need to do a zypper dup not a zypper up

First: I doubt the SSD’s weren’t usable anymore.
Second: I don’t see any “fdisk” output, nor other.

There’s so many options that could have caused what happened, but nothing useful to say about it without decent information.

Is there any call for support here that I missed, or can we move it to the Chit-Chat subforum.

BTW my experiences with 12.3 are the complete opposite of yours.

What happens in 12.3 is that a partial patition is on the ssd’s then you get a error -3030 when it want to format /boot

after that you have to lowlevel format the ssd’s because 12.2 cant do anything with /boot

so in the installer 12.2 you have to repatitions the drives use RAID hole in /boot swap and / different values as 12.3

/boot 12.2 = 156.88 mb
/boot 12.3 = 164.73 mn in the installer but what value is he using to patition and format the raid there is the problem -3030



12.2 fdisk

 Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders, total 234441648 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000ca5ed


   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048      321535      159744   83  Linux
/dev/sda2          321536     4530175     2104320   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3         4530176   464842751   230156288   83  Linux


Disk /dev/sdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders, total 234441648 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes




Disk /dev/mapper/pdc_ceehhhagcf: 238.0 GB, 237999882240 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 461154 cylinders, total 464843520 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 65536 bytes / 131072 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000ca5ed


                     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/mapper/pdc_ceehhhagcf1   *        2048      321535      159744   83  Linux
/dev/mapper/pdc_ceehhhagcf2          321536     4530175     2104320   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/mapper/pdc_ceehhhagcf3         4530176   464842751   230156288   83  Linux


Disk /dev/mapper/pdc_ceehhhagcf_part1: 163 MB, 163577856 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19 cylinders, total 319488 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                      
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 65536 bytes / 131072 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Disk /dev/mapper/pdc_ceehhhagcf_part2: 2154 MB, 2154823680 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                           
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 261 cylinders, total 4208640 sectors                                                                                                                                                                                          
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                      
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 65536 bytes / 131072 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Disk /dev/mapper/pdc_ceehhhagcf_part3: 235.7 GB, 235680038912 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                        
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 28653 cylinders, total 460312576 sectors                                                                                                                                                                                      
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                      
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 65536 bytes / 131072 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204885504 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                              
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525167 sectors                                                                                                                                                                                    
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                      
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Disk identifier: 0x000c3363                                                                                                                                                                                                                                


   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1            2048  1953523711   976760832   83  Linux



  1. Anyone who installs their system on RAID0 deserves to have their head examined. You achieve speed (questionable since after boot 12.3 runs mainly in RAM) at the expense sacrificing reliability more raising to a power the likelihood of catastrophic issues.

  2. You make no mention whether your RAID is software (again increasing the likelihood of errors) or hardware.

  3. You did a low level erase on SSD which at best was unnecessary and at worse might have changed how your drive behaves. All SSD drives directly from manufacturer already has its traps cleared and ready for writes.

  4. As mentioned, zypper up is only going to display packages with newer versions but no new packages and no architectural changes. Zypper dup does a full re-installation with architecural changes and likely will involve more than 300 updates which is about how many changes that happen when my system switches between Arch and noArch.

TSU