Your opinion

Hello

I have been using this forum in the past using the username ‘Ullrich’.

I have not been posting a question for more than 10 months.

Today I tried in vain to login.

So I made a new login name: Gold 123


I am using open SuSE 10.2 for about 18 months. It works fine. However, I downloaded the latest open SuSE 11.0.

Do you suggest that I upgrade or make a complete new installation?

If I just upgrade, I hope all the data will be intact.

I have been using this forum in the past using the username ‘Ullrich’.
I have not been posting a question for more than 10 months.

I suspect you are talking about one of the older forums that were merged to make up this new forum. Unfortunately, user IDs were not migrated. However, we’re glad you made it here! Sorry for the inconvenience. As for your installation, I’ll let someone qualified (not me!) answer that part of your question.

The best solution is generally a clean install, though there are instructions to upgrade. Because of the big shift in RPM’s, upgrading isn’t that simple going to 11.0, but 11.0 really is much nicer than 10.2 and 10.3

Ideally, I recommend that people keep a seperate /home partition for their data and settings. When you do a clean install, you wipe your / and /boot partitions, and keep your /home partition intact.

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Thanks Enderandrew for the valuable information.

The system recognize my hard drive as /dev/hda and it is 186.3 GB.

The partition /dev/hda1 is for Windows XP.

Then I have an extended partition of 138.00 GB.
So /dev/hda2 is the extended partition.

The partition /dev/hda5 is the root partition. It is 25.0GB. The file type is Linux native.

The partition /dev/hda6 is the home partition. It is 25.0 GB. The file type is Linux is native.

The partition /dev/hda7 is the swap partition. It is 3.0 GB. The file type is Linux swap.

Finally I have created a special folder for the purpose of downloading and storing. I did this deliberately because I want to keep all the downloads lands direct on this partition as well as save files.

It is /dev/hda8. It is 85.0 GB. The file type is Linux native. The system recognize this special partition as mnt/hda8. I probably hooked it on to the mnt folder.

I did the open SuSE 10.2 installation almost 18 months ago. It works beautifully. I use it everyday and even now I am writing to you using open SuSE 10.2.

**I want to keep the home partition [/dev/hda6], the special [/dev/hda8] and the tiny swap partition intact.

Is this possible? **

I think when I insert the open SuSE 11.0 DVD, it will erase everything and make a clean installation of open SuSE 11.0 installation.

I would like to hear from you all again.

With the tiny swap partition, I’m not sure exactly how to mount that properly, so I will let someone with more experience in that field help you with that. On the other hand, I can help you with the /home partition mount. When you go through the installation, there is a section (found on the left column) called Disk. This is where all of your partition information can be found and the changes can be made for your mounting. Once you get to this section, press the Edit Partition Setup… button. This will bring you up to a new section called the Expert Partitioner where all the changes can be made. In this window, you should see all the partitions and all the suggested settings YaST has provided. If there is an F next to your /home partition, then press the Edit button and specify that the partition should not be formatted with the radio buttons (the circular ones) provided. Once you do that, then you can mount the partition, and then save the information. Once you do that, then you can finish the installation.

If you need a visual reference before hand, here are some screenshots I have.

Hope that helps. :slight_smile:

Thanks unseen
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You made some excellent comments. I printed out your post. It is worth to read when I embark on this task.
**
However, I am waiting more comments from others.


**I am waiting for more comments from our friends before embarking on the installation of open SuSE 11.0
**
Some of you have good experiences installation related matters.

If this where me, during the setup & at the time you get a partition proposed, that’s where I would select to create you’re own partition layout. (Button ’ Create Partition Setup ’ and go for expert mode).
There you will get a detailed screen with your drive’s layout.

An example of the screen when using the LiveCD, the install DVD look similar : Image:OS11.0-live-inst-4.jpg - openSUSE
I would recommend installing using the DVD installer as you have more options at your fingertips.

You can then select and edit the following partitions:

  1. /dev/hda5 - select to format with the chosen file system , my favorite for laptops/desktops is still reiserfs, and set the mount point to ’ / ’
  2. /dev/hda6 - DO NOT SELECT FORMAT :slight_smile: , set the mount point to /home
  3. /dev/hda7 - select to format , filesystem type swap (mount point not needed)
  4. /dev/hda8 - DO NOT SELECT FORMAT :slight_smile: , set the mount point to /data (?)

You can leave the other partitions alone so they won’t be touched.

When finished with this double check the actions the partitioner will take in the summary screen, and if content proceed!

A note for reiserfs on openSUSE 11.0. There have been reported random freezes when using resierfs that seem to be fixed with the latest kernel updates. So apply the updates & if you still run into a freeze give that some attention first…

As for your swap size… that is not tiny at all! The swap in Linux works differently than the swap in Windows.
Generally you don’t need more than 2 GB of swap space.

Wishing you good luck & a good ride!!

Cheers,
Wj

P.s. As for the boot loader… go for GRUB! More advanced options and much simpler to troubleshoot than LILO in my experience.

Thanks magic

It was good information. I printed it out.

I don’t think I need more advice on this.
I will go ahead with upgrading or rather installation of open SuSE 11.0 when time permits.

I am using open SuSE 10.2 for about 18 months. It works beautifully. I got some help from people like ‘oldcpu’ to solve some issues in open SuSE 10.2

Those days I use the name Ullrich.

Sounds good! :slight_smile:

Hope everything goes smoothly for you, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Today I had time to install open SUSE 11.0. I just followed your instructions and it went smoothly.

There is a small hitch, however.
The printer does not work properly. I tried everything. When I write a letter using open office, I need to print out. I have an old HP printer. It works fine.

I don’t have a network of computers at the moment. Just a single computer.

Your help is appreciated.

The following are from the folder cups.

linux-j5q7:/etc # cd cups
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # ls
classes.conf    command.types       interfaces  mime.types     printers.conf.O   ssl
classes.conf.O  cupsd.conf          lpoptions   ppd            pstoraster.convs  yes
client.conf     cupsd.conf.default  mime.convs  printers.conf  snmp.conf


linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat printers.conf
# Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
# Written by cupsd on 2008-07-26 21:45
<DefaultPrinter deskjet5600>
Info hp deskjet 5600
Location USB printer on //hp/deskjet%205600?serial=MY3CC4P5ZH89
DeviceURI usb://hp/deskjet%205600?serial=MY3CC4P5ZH89
State Idle
StateTime 1217097497
Accepting Yes
Shared Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer
</Printer>
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #  

linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat printers.conf.O
# Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
# Written by cupsd on 2008-07-26 21:45
<DefaultPrinter deskjet5600>
Info hp deskjet 5600
Location USB printer on //hp/deskjet%205600?serial=MY3CC4P5ZH89
DeviceURI usb://hp/deskjet%205600?serial=MY3CC4P5ZH89
State Idle
StateTime 1217097497
Accepting Yes
Shared Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer
</Printer>
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #

linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat classes.conf
# Class configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
# Written by cupsd on 2008-07-26 21:45
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #

linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat classes.conf.O
# Class configuration file for CUPS v1.3.7
# Written by cupsd on 2008-07-26 21:07
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #

linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat client.conf
#   Sample client configuration file for the Common UNIX Printing System
#   (CUPS).
#
#   Copyright 1997-2005 by Easy Software Products, all rights reserved.
#   Klaus Singvogel <kssingvo@suse.de> modified it for SUSE distribution.
#
#   These coded instructions, statements, and computer programs are the
#   property of Easy Software Products and are protected by Federal
#   copyright law.  Distribution and use rights are outlined in the file
#   "LICENSE.txt" which should have been included with this file.  If this
#   file is missing or damaged please contact Easy Software Products
#   at:
#
#       Attn: CUPS Licensing Information
#       Easy Software Products
#       44141 Airport View Drive, Suite 204
#       Hollywood, Maryland 20636 USA
#
#       Voice: (301) 373-9600
#       EMail: cups-info@cups.org
#         WWW: http://www.cups.org
#

########################################################################
#                                                                      #
# This is the CUPS client configuration file.  This file is used to    #
# define client-specific parameters, such as the default server or     #
# default encryption settings.                                         #
#                                                                      #
# Put this file on /etc/cups/client.conf (system use) or               #
# ~/.cups/client.conf (personal use).                                  #
#                                                                      #
# more information in the manual page client.conf(5)
########################################################################

#
# Encryption: directive specifies the default encryption settings for
# the client.
#
# Possible values:
#
#     IfRequested
#     Never
#     Required
#     Always
#
# The default value is "IfRequested".
# This parameter can also be set # using the CUPS_ENCRYPTION environment
# variable.
#

#Encryption IfRequested
#Encryption Never
#Encryption Required
#Encryption Always

#
# ServerName: directive specifies sets the remote server that is to be
# used for all client operations. That is, it redirects all client
# requests to the remote server.
#
# By default CUPS will use the domain socket /var/run/cups/cups.sock or
# local server ("localhost"), if so configured. The value can be
# overwritten by the CUPS_SERVER environment variable.
#
# The default port number is 631 but can be overridden by adding a colon
# followed by the desired port number to the value.
#
# ONLY ONE SERVER NAME MAY BE SPECIFIED AT A TIME.  To use more than one
# server you must use a local scheduler with browsing and possibly
# polling.
#

#ServerName /domain/socket
#ServerName foo.bar.com
#ServerName 11.22.33.444
#ServerName foo.bar.com:8631
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #

linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat command.types
#
# "$Id: command.types,v 1.1.78.1 2007/12/23 17:30:03 easysw Exp $"
#
#   MIME types file for the CUPS drivers.
#
#   Copyright 1993-2000 by Easy Software Products.
#
#   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
#   under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
#   Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option)
#   any later version.
#
#   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
#   WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY
#   or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License
#   for more details.
#
#   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#   along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#   Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
#

# Define the new application/vnd.cups-command filetype...
application/vnd.cups-command    string(0,'#CUPS-COMMAND')

#
# End of "$Id: command.types,v 1.1.78.1 2007/12/23 17:30:03 easysw Exp $".
#
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #

linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat cupsd.conf
#
# "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 7199 2008-01-08 00:16:30Z mike $"
#
#   Sample configuration file for the Common UNIX Printing System (CUPS)
#   scheduler.  See "man cupsd.conf" for a complete description of this
#   file.
#

# Log general information in error_log - change "info" to "debug" for
# troubleshooting...
LogLevel info

# Administrator user group...
SystemGroup sys root


# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

# Show shared printers on the local network.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
BrowseAllow all

# Default authentication type, when authentication is required...
DefaultAuthType Basic

# Restrict access to the server...
<Location />
Order Deny,Allow
Allow From 127.0.0.2
</Location>

# Restrict access to the admin pages...
<Location /admin>
Encryption Required
Order allow,deny
</Location>

# Restrict access to configuration files...
<Location /admin/conf>
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order allow,deny
</Location>

# Set the default printer/job policies...
<Policy default>
  # Job-related operations must be done by the owner or an administrator...
<Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job Purge-Jobs Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-Subscription Renew-Subscription Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job Suspend-Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job>
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
</Limit>

  # All administration operations require an administrator to authenticate...
<Limit CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Modify-Class CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Set-Default>
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM


Order deny,allow
</Limit>

  # All printer operations require a printer operator to authenticate...
<Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Enable-Printer Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job Hold-New-Jobs Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer Restart-Printer Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job Schedule-Job-After CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs>
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
</Limit>

  # Only the owner or an administrator can cancel or authenticate a job...
<Limit Cancel-Job CUPS-Authenticate-Job>
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
</Limit>

<Limit All>
Order deny,allow
</Limit>
</Policy>
BrowseAddress @LOCAL

#
# End of "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 7199 2008-01-08 00:16:30Z mike $".
#
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #

linux-j5q7:/etc/cups # cat cupsd.conf.default
#
# "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 7199 2008-01-08 00:16:30Z mike $"
#
#   Sample configuration file for the Common UNIX Printing System (CUPS)
#   scheduler.  See "man cupsd.conf" for a complete description of this
#   file.
#

# Log general information in error_log - change "info" to "debug" for
# troubleshooting...
LogLevel info

# Administrator user group...
SystemGroup sys root


# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

# Show shared printers on the local network.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
BrowseAllow all

# Default authentication type, when authentication is required...
DefaultAuthType Basic

# Restrict access to the server...
<Location />
  Order allow,deny
  Allow 127.0.0.2
</Location>

# Restrict access to the admin pages...
<Location /admin>
  Encryption Required
  Order allow,deny
</Location>

# Restrict access to configuration files...
<Location /admin/conf>
  AuthType Default
  Require user @SYSTEM
  Order allow,deny
</Location>

# Set the default printer/job policies...
<Policy default>
  # Job-related operations must be done by the owner or an administrator...
  <Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job Purge-Jobs Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-Subscription Renew-Subscription Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job Suspend-Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job>
    Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
    Order deny,allow
  </Limit>

  # All administration operations require an administrator to authenticate...
  <Limit CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Modify-Class CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Set-Default>
    AuthType Default
    Require user @SYSTEM
    Order deny,allow
  </Limit>

  # All printer operations require a printer operator to authenticate...
  <Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Enable-Printer Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job Hold-New-Jobs Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer Restart-Printer Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job Schedule-Job-After CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs>
    AuthType Default
    Require user @SYSTEM
    Order deny,allow
  </Limit>

  # Only the owner or an administrator can cancel or authenticate a job...
  <Limit Cancel-Job CUPS-Authenticate-Job>
    Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
    Order deny,allow
  </Limit>

  <Limit All>
    Order deny,allow
  </Limit>
</Policy>

#
# End of "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 7199 2008-01-08 00:16:30Z mike $".
#
linux-j5q7:/etc/cups #

**
The printer worked fine under open SUSE 10.2**

The following is from open SUSE 10.2. I saved some files before the installation of open SUSE 11.0. Our friend ‘oldcpu’ suggested saving some important files to be on the safe side.

Ni@linux-3vxw:/etc> cd cups
Ni@linux-3vxw:/etc/cups> ls
classes.conf    cupsd.conf.default  mime.types       pstoraster.convs
classes.conf.O  interfaces          ppd              ssl
command.types   lpoptions           printers.conf
cupsd.conf      mime.convs          printers.conf.O
Ni@linux-3vxw:/etc/cups>         

which driver did you load for your hp printer?
if not sure see if you hpijs they seem to work better i have 2 hp printers ones an old one and another is pretty new

The supported printers can be found here: HCL Printers.

I’ve been having the same problem with my printer, since it’s not a very popular one.

Hope you get a solution to your problem. :slight_smile:

There are some nice HP utilities for auto-detecting and setting up printers like hpijs and hplips. I use an Epson printer currently, but when setting up HP printers for other people in Linux, those utilities are actually easier than any printer setup I’ve seen in Windows.

Thanks everybody for the replies.

I downloaded the following file:
hplip-2.8.6d.run

SourceForge.net: Downloading …

I don’t know what to do with the file. I mean I don’t know how to handle the file and install the driver.
Your help is needed.


Our friend Havoc asked the following.
which driver did you load for your hp printer?

I just clicked the printer icon in YAST2 control and installed what it suggested.

**
I badly need your help.**