Hi,
I think there is bug in this section or it is just incomplete
since the recoding of more than a year ago.
Here is what I note:
Suggested Packages, Recommended Packages, Orphaned Packages,
and Needed Packages sections/groups work as they should.
The rest (of the groups) do NOT COLLAPSE the uninstalled packages
if more than one version exists, as happens in every other section of
the Yast2 (qt) Software Management program/tool. This means if there
are ten version updates of a particular package, you will see all of
them (multiply that by the many tens or hundreds of non-installed
packages and it becomes hard to make a simple selection) and with
the same version id. So this to me looks like a bug and I have seen
it on five 13.2 installs and one on Leap 42.1 but would like to see a
confirmation by others. Briefly searched Bugzilla but did no see
any bug reports on this issue nor could Google search bring up
anything relevant.
‘All Packages’ and ‘Programming’ sections/groups have a definite
and noticeable time lag of between 10 to 20 seconds when moving to and
away from them. ‘Y2base’ is the command showing up in ‘Top’ as cpu
grabber (100%).
It is not a big deal for me and I can work around this issue but
Yast (qt) just seems not to be 100% with this oddity around.
As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver that information by yourself in your post.
On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
>
> As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
> version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
> that information by yourself in your post.
I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
answer your question:
> 2. The rest (of the groups) do NOT COLLAPSE the uninstalled packages
> if more than one version exists, as happens in every other section of
> the Yast2 (qt) Software Management program/tool. This means if there
> are ten version updates of a particular package, you will see all of
> them (multiply that by the many tens or hundreds of non-installed
> packages and it becomes hard to make a simple selection) and with
> the same version id. So this to me looks like a bug and I have seen
> it on **five 13.2 installs and one on Leap 42.1"" but would like to see a
> confirmation by others. Briefly searched Bugzilla but did no see
> any bug reports on this issue nor could Google search bring up
> anything relevant.
In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
13.2 (the Leap 42.1 install is now deleted but had same issue and was
a fresh upgrade from a default kade4 13.2 install via zypper dup),
2 x Kde4 (32 bit and 64 bit on different laptops) and a Gnome 3 and Xfce
64 bit on separate partitions. All use Yast2-qt version Software
Management package/module.
I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
Software Management - ‘Package Groups’ on 13.2 or Leap and give some
feedback.
Cheers,
Peter
PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
hour or so.
Yes, I tried this on Leap 42.1, and I see the same thing. If there are 10 versions of a particular package, then that package shows 10 times. Each listing has the latest version (or perhaps that’s the installed version). Using the versions tab, I counted the number of versions and it seems to be the same as the number of times the package is listed.
On 10/01/16 10:06, nrickert wrote:
>
> Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
>> I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
>> Software Management - ‘Package Groups’ on 13.2 or Leap and give some
>> feedback.
>
> Yes, I tried this on Leap 42.1, and I see the same thing. If there are
> 10 versions of a particular package, then that package shows 10 times.
> Each listing has the latest version (or perhaps that’s the installed
> version). Using the versions tab, I counted the number of versions and
> it seems to be the same as the number of times the package is listed.
>
> Have you reported a bug?
Thanks for your confirmation and I have not reported a bug yet. I have
only ever put in one bug report and that was like back in 2008.
I will not have time in the next week or so but if no one more efficient
than I at big reports puts one in, I will do it after that.
You are correct, you did mention it somewhere down. Sorry that I missed that.
But it would be very nice to have that from the beginning. Then people know from the start what all this is about and they can skip it from the start when they have no experience with the version mentioned.
On 01/10/2016 10:16 PM, hcvv wrote:
>
> Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
>> On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
>>>
>>> As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
>>> version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
>>> that information by yourself in your post.
>>
>> I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
>> answer your question:
>>
>> In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
>> 13.2 (the Leap 42.1
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>>
>> PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
>> hour or so.
> You are correct, you did mention it somewhere down. Sorry that I missed
> that.
>
> But it would be very nice to have that from the beginning. Then people
> know from the start what all this is about and they can skip it from the
> start when they have no experience with the version mentioned.
No worries, point taken and I will endeavour to keep this in mind for
any future posts.
On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
>
> As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
> version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
> that information by yourself in your post.
I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
answer your question:
> 2. The rest (of the groups) do NOT COLLAPSE the uninstalled packages
> if more than one version exists, as happens in every other section of
> the Yast2 (qt) Software Management program/tool. This means if there
> are ten version updates of a particular package, you will see all of
> them (multiply that by the many tens or hundreds of non-installed
> packages and it becomes hard to make a simple selection) and with
> the same version id. So this to me looks like a bug and I have seen
> it on **five 13.2 installs and one on Leap 42.1"" but would like to see a
> confirmation by others. Briefly searched Bugzilla but did no see
> any bug reports on this issue nor could Google search bring up
> anything relevant.
In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
13.2 (the Leap 42.1 install is now deleted but had same issue and was
a fresh upgrade from a default kade4 13.2 install via zypper dup),
2 x Kde4 (32 bit and 64 bit on different laptops) and a Gnome 3 and Xfce
64 bit on separate partitions. All use Yast2-qt version Software
Management package/module.
I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
Software Management - ‘Package Groups’ on 13.2 or Leap and give some
feedback.
Cheers,
Peter
PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
hour or so.
On 10/01/16 10:06, nrickert wrote:
>
> Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
>> I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
>> Software Management - ‘Package Groups’ on 13.2 or Leap and give some
>> feedback.
>
> Yes, I tried this on Leap 42.1, and I see the same thing. If there are
> 10 versions of a particular package, then that package shows 10 times.
> Each listing has the latest version (or perhaps that’s the installed
> version). Using the versions tab, I counted the number of versions and
> it seems to be the same as the number of times the package is listed.
>
> Have you reported a bug?
Thanks for your confirmation and I have not reported a bug yet. I have
only ever put in one bug report and that was like back in 2008.
I will not have time in the next week or so but if no one more efficient
than I at big reports puts one in, I will do it after that.
On 01/10/2016 10:16 PM, hcvv wrote:
>
> Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
>> On 10/01/16 01:06, hcvv wrote:
>>>
>>> As an NNTP user, you managed to skip the filling in of the openSUSE
>>> version you use. Thus, as an NNTP user, you are requested to deliver
>>> that information by yourself in your post.
>>
>> I thought the following in my first post would be sufficient info to
>> answer your question:
>>
>> In any case, as stated in my first post, I am currently using openSUSE
>> 13.2 (the Leap 42.1
>> Cheers,
>> Peter
>>
>> PS: I will not have much time to further respond today after the next
>> hour or so.
> You are correct, you did mention it somewhere down. Sorry that I missed
> that.
>
> But it would be very nice to have that from the beginning. Then people
> know from the start what all this is about and they can skip it from the
> start when they have no experience with the version mentioned.
No worries, point taken and I will endeavour to keep this in mind for
any future posts.
On 10/01/16 10:06, nrickert wrote:
>
> Peter_Abc;2747760 Wrote:
>> I should think this is easy enough to verify by anyone using Yast2-qt
>> Software Management - ‘Package Groups’ on 13.2 or Leap and give some
>> feedback.
>
> Yes, I tried this on Leap 42.1, and I see the same thing. If there are
> 10 versions of a particular package, then that package shows 10 times.
> Each listing has the latest version (or perhaps that’s the installed
> version). Using the versions tab, I counted the number of versions and
> it seems to be the same as the number of times the package is listed.
>
> Have you reported a bug?
Hi NR,
I did not create a bug report due to time constraints but this issue has
persisted through openSuse releases 13.2, 42.1 and 42.2. Though mostly
fixed in 42.3, it still exist in the “All Packages” section, which I
think is the least useful part of “Package Groups”. Thus I could say
there is progress being made by Team Yast.
Lastly, I have an Ubuntu Mate 17.10 (upgraded from 16.10->17.04->17.10)
install and I can see a similar issue in sections of the Synaptic
package manager (which I observed in all the above versions).