Yast

For some reason I was trialing a SUSE 11.1 SP1 version for a while and somehow I have NO clue it attempted to change itself to a OpenSUSE 11.1 System. I have no clue what I did, please don’t ask :’( Now though I have been successful in turning into an OpenSUSE 11.2 system by changing the repositories to OpenSUSE 11.2, doing a “zypper refresh”, “Zypper in Zypper”, “Zypper dup -d”, “Zypper dup”. I also did a repair and refreshed the base packages with an OpenSUSE 11.2 DVD and that seemed to help also. The only thing it seems I can get right is that yast/yast2 give me this error:
Download failed:
Failed to download ./repo/repoindex.xml from https://nu.novell.com/?cookies=0&credentials=NCCcredentials
History:

  • [AbstractCommand.cc:224] URI=https://nu.novell.com/repo/repoindex.xml?cookies=0&credentials=NCCcredential

It’s still either using the OLD yast or preserving the registration information from the SUSE 11.1, how do I get rid of it???

Any help much appreciated!
Thanks,
Tom

PS - and yes I would like to preserve this system if possible… not nuke it :expressionless:

You didn’t say exactly what you are doing when this error occurs (Though going by your account, it doesn’t really surprise me that you have issues).
FYI: no registration is required with openSUSE

PS - and yes I would like to preserve this system if possible… not nuke it

That maybe how you feel. But you already dug the grave, hang on while we nail the lid on the coffin - we can complete the ceremony later:)

caf4926 wrote:
> we can complete the ceremony later:)

+1, @LACAKID06, -=welcome=- new poster…

i would strongly suggest you clean out your hard drive with a pristine
install of some ONE thing, and then stick with that…or mark a safe
route back to where you were when all was well (before it accidentally
got all jumbled up–that is, have a good backup before experimenting…

as you probably learned, adding openSUSE repos to try to enhance or
extend SLED is a very risky path between the two marked “Open” and
“Commercial”…pick one of the two marked paths and stay on it…


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Right… I hear you! I have Nooooo idea what happened really and I am not trying to change but since I was already for some reason 1/2 way there without intentionally trying I just wanted to go the full route to OpenSuse 11.2 and finish. I’d rather not wipe out my machine and I’ve been around long enough to know what would be the “best” route to take. Isn’t there a way to just completely refresh “yast/yast2” and get rid of all the **** from SUSE?? I’m not trying again the go down a risky path, the machine is up and running and yast works (I think) it’s just has registration screens and that leads me to believe there is still something there from SUSE 11 that needs to be gotten rid of… Would there be a list somewhere of packages to completely blow away the yast system and reinstall? Just curious…

Thanks in advance!
Tom

LACAKID06 wrote:
> leads me to believe there is still something there from SUSE 11
> that needs to be gotten rid of…

i am convinced without seeing the screens that there is LOTS of stuff
laying around from the SLED install…

see, when you change to openSUSE repos that only overwrites existing
SLED files with newer openSUSE files…it will NOT search around and
look for no longer needed SLED files (including config files) and
remove them…

> Would there be a list somewhere of packages to completely blow away
> the yast system and reinstall?

well, there might be a list for (each version of) SLED and a different
list for (each version of) openSUSE, but i really really doubt there
is a complete list of every thing you would have to manually remove to
get from (say) SLED 10 with Gnome to openSUSE 11.2 with KDE (or whatever)

which is the reason two of us (who have been here more than a week)
have already told you what we would do:
-backup all data and personal files/movies/music etc etc etc
-format and fresh install from a known good install disk
-set up as you wish, add programs in then restore your data

however, you are free to just keep using what you have, and hope for
the best…


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Hi
In the case of SLED11 SP1 going to openSUSE 11.2 is actually backwards.
SP1 has newer releases as well as Kernel. eg SLED11 SP1 is KDE4.3.5
11.2 is KDE4.?.? Kernel is SLED11 SP1 is 2.6.32 so it’s more of
downgrade than a cross-grade.

@OP, if your running Gnome, switch YaST to the qt version and then look
@system. You should then be able to swith the repositories at the top
AFAIK (caf4926, that’s the way isn’t it?)


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@OP, if your running Gnome, switch YaST to the qt version and then look
@system. You should then be able to swith the repositories at the top
AFAIK (caf4926, that’s the way isn’t it?)

Well, yes and no.
It would be better perhaps, rather than using the package switcher (which is only there for individual repos and not ‘System’), to (selecting ‘System’ in the repo section go to the top Menu ‘Package’ then in the drop down ‘All in this list’ > ‘Update Unconditionally’.

Hang on and I’ll do a screen.

Mind you, zypper dup will do much the same, but the above will re-install Everything
And it will update and roll back

Here we are
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Well, yes and no.
It would be better perhaps, rather than using the package switcher (which is only there for individual repos and not ‘System’), to (selecting ‘System’ in the repo section go to the top Menu ‘Package’ then in the drop down ‘All in this list’ > ‘Update Unconditionally’.

I did try that and it did update some other stuff, the Zypper / Yast for some reason it just can’t shake it’s old SUSE 11.0
registration information. I think yast also still looks like the old SUSE yast…

Quick question: I have a Software RAID on the system composed of 5 hard disks, if I blow the system away and start over will I loose my RAID? Or is OPEN SUSE smart enough to read the drives at the begining when it’s booting and continue the RAID where it left off, I don’t want to loose any data in my RAID 5. That’s why i am scared to wipe the drive…

Thanks,
Tom

I can’t answer that question, I know nothing of RAID.
It’s not something I have time for and I can’t see the value of it in a Home/Office situation, where I have various different installations, all with their own backup facility.

WOW! Loaded response, I am hoping someone who has one can answer and h*ll yeah a RAID 5 in my home is exactly what I am doing I paid about $1000 for it and have it so I can have 6.6TB to mount with SAMBA to my home computers on MS XP, Vista and 7. This is completely for home / hobby and fun! Knowing RAID is a good thing to know, FYI most people have them these days in some sort of fashion and SUSE 11 has been very stable and good for this, I assume OpenSUSE 11.2/11/3 will do the same but I have to import the RAID into it, that’s all…

I’m guessing someone out there does have the answer… I’m patient I can wait, thanks for your reply though! I’m sorry you can’t help but I understand completely not everyone needs it or even wants it :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Take care!

Tom

Why would you do anything fundamental without backup??

RAID is not a back up solution. It is a availability solution. You still need to backup. Never play with partitions without doing a backup.

Since you are using software RAID you should be able to install a newer OS just tell it how the partitions are to be mounted in the array. But I’d never do this without first backing up critical data. What if you lose power in the middle??

Look it’s great you guys are admins and or have posted 1800+ times etc. etc. etc. but I really think you are loosing the picture here. I’m not asking for your suggestions or opinions on how you feel I should back up my data a RAID 5 was / is the only thing I could afford so I did it this way, how would you backup 7TB of data? The only way is if you have that kind of money to blow on hardware and mirror the entire thing which I DON’T so I went RAID 5 meaning I can loose 1 drive and replace it quickly if one faile and it rebuilds the RAID 5 which I have done probably 7 times since I started with it and I still have ALL my data. Rebuilt it many, many times…

If you don’t want to answer my question and just lecture me on “your” opinion of how I should treat “MY” data, I am 100% not interested. If you don’t know the answer just say so and I will find the RAID group and post there!! I’m not a 1 year old with computers just not an expert with software RAID’s… Really I don’t need a lecture on computers and data safety. I will post somewhere else because I feel you guys are just playing the GURU card with all the attitude mixed in and I am so not in the mood to deal with people like you right now…

I picked the wrong group obviously I am REALLY sorry I will go somewher else.

Thanks anyway, ***** amongst yourselves I am unsubscribing from this thread maybe even changing my username…
Geez I have been a UNIX guy for wow! 25 years and I am still not a prick! **** I must be a nice guy :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

LACAKID06 wrote:
> I picked the wrong group obviously I am REALLY sorry I will go somewher
> else.

i’d suggest next time you ask for help that you mention you don’t want
any opinions…bye.


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I just said I couldn’t answer your question and explained MY situation.
I do think any move is risky from what I have read in the past. Don’t be so touchy and hang around, there are folk with understanding in this area who frequent the forum.
:slight_smile:

If you have been a Unix guy for 25 years you really should know this stuff. The way to back up 7 TB of data is to have 7 TB to backup to. And you should know all the potential dangers of messing with a partition. And that RAID is really a pretty fragile thing when it comes to changing it.

We of course have no way of knowing your level of expertize. People that barely know how to turn on their computers sometimes show up. So it is best to be conservative in advice and we need to know as much as possible. Your first post did not even hint that you have a major RAID array setup.

So if you still want help show us some more like maybe the partitioning set up with some idea where the important data is.

fdisk -l

would be a start

I don’t know RAID either but if you are multi-booting under RAID. IMHO Grub or whatever you use to muliti-boot, clearing OpenSuse 11.2 wouldn’t trash the other installations as long as you’re booting with RAID. Try again IOW, as your RAID boots into different installations they’re treated as different partitions, so, clearing Opensuse only affects Opensuse unless you trash the mbr, RAID or track 0 right?

The registration problem sounds like repo problems. Maybe disabled the SLED repos and verify the priority for Opensuse 11.2 repos. Uninstall/re-install of offending packages post-repository clean up may help get rid of broken dependencies.

FWIW, everyone suggests to everyone that they backup data first as a cya. For instance, if I’m right about mulit-boot RAID you only need worry about your Opensuse data not 6.6TB.

aka Chill Out