Yast UI Improvements

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Using kde4 Factory OS 11.1

Did you notice the UI has improved and that annoying toggle in Software Repos has gone (where, when you clicked to select/highlight a repo it toggled it on/off):wink:

Nicely done.

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Ahhh ā€¦ more specifically, ā€œYaST Software Management UI Improvementsā€.

Its good to read about. Iā€™ve read many rants about this. ā€¦ hopefully this will show our user base that some criticisms are listened to. :slight_smile:

I confess I donā€™t encounter ā€œannoyanceā€ in any openSUSE version as I am one of the ā€œblack sheepā€ who still use ā€œSmart Package Managerā€ instead of YaST Software Management. :open_mouth:

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Itā€™s good news. Maybe they listened to criticisms made here, but I suspect they listened more to rants/comments from suse devs, or ex-devs possibly. :slight_smile:

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Hi oldcpu,

Do you see any advantage in using it over Yast, or is it just habit? I ask because I started with yast and as far as I recall never used anything else (not even cmdline zipper), although Iā€™ve read about smart, rug, synaptics, etc.

Yast SM was a pain in 10.x due to slowness, had to tweak it, but not anymore.

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I used smart back in 10 and 10.1 and still installed it as backup thru 10.2
But now I have no use for it, partly because Yast is so much better with zypper and partly because now I can get myself out of a mess without a UI

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Zypper has IMHO superior dependency resolution that smart, which is surprising given smartā€™s main purpose was to have superior dependency resolution. Its easier to add and remove repositories with zypper.

Smart has a nicer gui. Smart will nicely list the description of a program before it is installed, which is not as well implemented in the zypper/yast combination.

Smart gives a better indication of the status of programs as they are being installed than zypper/yast.

Smart gives a better display of installed programs (IMHO) and it gives a better display of programs that have updates that have not been installed yet.

One has to be much much more careful with smart, to avoid mixing 32-bit and 64-bit applications.

I use both smart and zypper/yast, although I think it fair to say I use:

  • smart 90% of the time
  • zypper - 7 % of the time
  • yast - 2 % of the time
    *]rpm - 1 % of the time
    Those being estimates of my own use, and not hard fast figures.
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  • smart 90% of the time
  • zypper - 7 % of the time
  • yast - 2 % of the time
  • rpm - 1 % of the time

Iā€™m glad that added up to 100%rotfl!
Guess you are pretty ā€˜smartā€™