yast online update vs system tray update

System tray update icon says I have updates available. I have to enter the password twice. It erases it right in the middle of typing it. When I enter yast online update, there are no updates?? The update tray icon doesn’t show any updates being installed after the password is entered.

Which one shows current updates and works?

What does zypper say

zypper lu

or

zypper patch

Might be worth doing:

zypper clean --all

then

rpmdb --rebuilddb

then check

zypper lu

again

System tray updater is different for 11.3 v. 11.4 so what release of openSUSE?

zypper lu

Repository 'Packman Repository' is out-of-date. You can run 'zypper refresh' as root to update it.
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
S | Repository         | Name            | Current Version              | Available Version            | Arch  
--+--------------------+-----------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+-------
v | Packman Repository | MPlayer         | 1.0rc4_r33082-1.pm.1.1       | 1.0rc4_r33082-1.pm.1.2       | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | ffmpeg          | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavcodec52    | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavdevice52   | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavfilter1    | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavformat52   | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavutil50     | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libpostproc51   | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libswscale0     | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libxine1-codecs | 1.1.19-2.pm.45.18            | 1.1.19-2.pm.45.19            | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libxvidcore4    | 1.3.0-1.pm.1.1               | 1.3.1-1.pm.1.1               | x86_64

zypper patch
Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata [done]
Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache [done]
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

zypper clean --all
All repositories have been cleaned up.

rpmdb --rebuilddb

zypper lu
Building repository 'openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0' cache [done]
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
S | Repository         | Name            | Current Version              | Available Version            | Arch  
--+--------------------+-----------------+------------------------------+------------------------------+-------
v | Packman Repository | MPlayer         | 1.0rc4_r33082-1.pm.1.1       | 1.0rc4_r33082-1.pm.1.2       | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | ffmpeg          | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavcodec52    | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavdevice52   | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavfilter1    | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavformat52   | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libavutil50     | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libpostproc51   | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libswscale0     | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.1 | 0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libxine1-codecs | 1.1.19-2.pm.45.18            | 1.1.19-2.pm.45.19            | x86_64
v | Packman Repository | libxvidcore4    | 1.3.0-1.pm.1.1               | 1.3.1-1.pm.1.1               | x86_64

zypper refresh
Repository 'Packman Repository' is up to date.
Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss' is up to date.
Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Oss' is up to date.
Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Update' is up to date.
All repositories have been refreshed.

??

Now run

zypper up

Hi

As I wish to pass to KDE desktop, i installed openSUSE 11.4 KDE on a test node. I also have troubles with updates for 2 days (first ones worked fine). ( FYI no trouble with Gnome updates for 11.4 on other nodes.)

Both with online update, KpackageKit and command line zypper up. It fails at each time with" timezone" and “timezone-java” 2011d.-0.2.1 updates which are first treated. At 56% of loading the rate falls at 0kb/s and after a time on the loading process window a message appears “Timeout exceeded when accessing 'http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/rpm/noarch/timezone-java-2011d-0.2.1.noarch.rpm”. Even if i uncheck timezone radio button in the updating list all other packages have the same issue.

I tried to load timezone rpm directly on the “download http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/rpm/i586/” and there is the same trouble for loading them on live. I tried other files > ones have the same issue, some other ones are quickly loaded. I tried to load timezone files on “noarch” folder instead of “i568” > same issue, on “scr” folder loadings work fine. But don’t work with software manager YAST2 for updating. Is it maybe due to an overload of servers charge (i tried nights & days) ? Is it a technical trouble ? Anybody with a solution will be welcome.
Thanks a lot. See u.

suse 11.4


zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following package updates will NOT be installed:
  gstreamer-0_10-plugin-gnomevfs gstreamer-0_10-plugin-hal gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base 
  gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good k3b libgstapp-0_10-0 libgstinterfaces-0_10-0 libquicktime 
  libwavpack1 mjpegtools taglib 

The following NEW package is going to be installed:
  openexr 

The following package is going to be REMOVED:
  OpenEXR 

The following packages are going to be upgraded:
  ffmpeg libavcodec52 libavdevice52 libavfilter1 libavformat52 libavutil50 libpostproc51 
  libswscale0 libxine1-codecs libxvidcore4 MPlayer 

11 packages to upgrade, 1 new, 1 to remove.
Overall download size: 19.0 MiB. After the operation, 719.0 KiB will be freed.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y): y
Retrieving package openexr-1.7.0-3.1.x86_64 (1/12), 81.0 KiB (291.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: openexr-1.7.0-3.1.x86_64.rpm [done (99.9 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package libxvidcore4-1.3.1-1.pm.1.1.x86_64 (2/12), 205.0 KiB (708.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libxvidcore4-1.3.1-1.pm.1.1.x86_64.rpm [done (57.1 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package libavutil50-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (3/12), 52.0 KiB (109.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libavutil50-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done]
Retrieving package libswscale0-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (4/12), 72.0 KiB (223.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libswscale0-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done]
Retrieving package libpostproc51-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (5/12), 20.0 KiB (43.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libpostproc51-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done]
Retrieving package libavcodec52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (6/12), 2.0 MiB (5.3 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libavcodec52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done (87.5 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package MPlayer-1.0rc4_r33082-1.pm.1.2.x86_64 (7/12), 15.3 MiB (41.1 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving: MPlayer-1.0rc4_r33082-1.pm.1.2.x86_64.rpm [done (116.3 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package libavformat52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (8/12), 394.0 KiB (968.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libavformat52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done (100.9 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package libxine1-codecs-1.1.19-2.pm.45.19.x86_64 (9/12), 416.0 KiB (1.3 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libxine1-codecs-1.1.19-2.pm.45.19.x86_64.rpm [done (91.9 KiB/s)]
Retrieving package libavdevice52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (10/12), 26.0 KiB (53.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libavdevice52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done]
Retrieving package libavfilter1-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (11/12), 51.0 KiB (125.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: libavfilter1-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done]
Retrieving package ffmpeg-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64 (12/12), 369.0 KiB (1.8 MiB unpacked)
Retrieving: ffmpeg-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2.x86_64.rpm [done (88.0 KiB/s)]
Installing: openexr-1.7.0-3.1 [done]
Installing: libxvidcore4-1.3.1-1.pm.1.1 [done]
Installing: libavutil50-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]
Installing: libswscale0-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]
Installing: libpostproc51-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]
Installing: libavcodec52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]
Installing: MPlayer-1.0rc4_r33082-1.pm.1.2 [done]
Installing: libavformat52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]
Installing: libxine1-codecs-1.1.19-2.pm.45.19 [done]
Installing: libavdevice52-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]
Installing: libavfilter1-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]
Installing: ffmpeg-0.6.201103092102git-1.pm.2.2 [done]

zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following package updates will NOT be installed:
  gstreamer-0_10-plugin-gnomevfs gstreamer-0_10-plugin-hal gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base 
  gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good k3b libgstapp-0_10-0 libgstinterfaces-0_10-0 libquicktime 
  libwavpack1 mjpegtools taglib 

Nothing to do.


It worked. :slight_smile:

Now, next time what order of commands to do an update through the terminal?

zypper up

Thanks.

Yes, that sometime happens to me. I find it a bit confusing. The updater is a bit buggy.

That happened to me today. But when I looked in “/var/log/zypp/history” it showed that the updates had in fact been applied.

The updater is Kpackagekit, which seems to be fragile and slow. I find it easier to use YaST online update, or Zypper.

@lord_valarian
I tend to use Software Management only
Once I have the packages switch to Packman I just do this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Switcher%20Pics/update-system.png

That’s the QT interface. If you use Gnome you will need to switch to QT in Yast
Switch Yast Interface to QT

I assume you know about switching Packman
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Switcher%20Pics/11.3-packman-switch.png

I am having the same problem with the same packages. I’ve tried manually changing the repositories to various local mirrors but no go. I can also download them manually using a web-browser, just not through package management. Last week I had the same problem with a different set of packages.

I also have issues with how the updater applet works in 11.4. For one thing, it consistently identifies different packages as needing updating to those that yast identifies, which confuses me.

Secondly, I can’t actually install anything with the updater applet. It won’t install without root authorisation (as I would hope!), but it also doesn’t doesn’t give me any opportunity to authenticate, so all updates fail. Now that’s fine for me in that I have yast online update set to run automatically, thus covering my security needs, but it’s a right pain when I download an rpm from a website and want to install it, because kpackagekit gets fired up and then refuses to do anything. Sure, I can install using rpm -ivh in the shell, but it would be nice if I could get kpackagekit to either do the job for me or stop trying to do it in the first place.

@esoltech

Please run this as su -

zypper up

On 2011-03-28 06:36, caf4926 wrote:

> That’s the QT interface. If you use Gnome you will need to switch to QT
> in Yast
> ‘Switch Yast Interface to QT’ (http://tinyurl.com/27oactw)

No need. Simply run:

gnomesu -c “/sbin/yast2 --qt online_update”

or create a launcher.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Hi caf,

Here’s the output:

mymachine:/home/esoltech # zypper up
Loading repository data…
Reading installed packages…

The following packages are going to be upgraded:
bootsplash bootsplash-branding-openSUSE openvpn timezone timezone-java yast2-control-center yast2-control-center-qt

7 packages to upgrade.
Overall download size: 10.3 MiB. After the operation, additional 3.4 MiB will be used.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y): y
Retrieving package timezone-java-2011d-0.2.1.noarch (1/7), 109.0 KiB (278.0 KiB unpacked)
Retrieving: timezone-java-2011d-0.2.1.noarch.rpm [56% (0 B/s)]

Hi All

@esoltech

It is so amazing you have the same issue and at the same %.

@ALL

I uninstalled KpackageKit, tried all solutions provided by Caf4926 > no success. It is really a mystery like sometimes with computers. My test node is an old PIII 1 G and i saw that there are sometimes strange things like mixing English and French language on the system. So i just installed OS114 KDE on an other node P4 2.4 G for whether this is due to PC. AND IT WORKS FINE !!! no trouble with updates. FYI an other thing about the PIII installation > it was done with the KDE114 live CD and on on the P4 was done with the OS114 DVD…

@esoltech

Maybe try a new installation or on an other node if you get one

see u

On 2011-03-28 22:06, mscswap wrote:
> It is so amazing you have the same issue and at the same %.

Verify in the log the exact mirror the download is using, then verify if
you can do a manual download from that mirror.

If it fails, report to Novel - there is a link somewhere.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

I’ve tried various mirrors and I can do manual downloads from my 11.2 box (firefox, wget etc), but I can’t download from the 11.4, not with yast, not with zypper, not with wget, and not with firefox. I’d say it’s firewall except that I can download other packages from the same servers, e.g. bootsplash downloaded fine this morning. Truly bizarre.

Update: it’s definitely not the firewall. Turning the firewall off doesn’t help.

I’ve reported this but had no answer. Anyone else got any ideas?

What happens with
Yast > Software > Online Update?

Have to tried to rebuild the rpm database?

As su

rpmbuild --rebuild

I get cannot access installation media. Check whether the server is accessible. This is with an individual mirror server, but I get the same error with the opensuse update server as well.

The files are there though.

I don’t understand why I would rebuild the rpm database. Isn’t that for use with files that are already on your computer? Or are you suggesting I rebuild the existing rpms for these packages?