Yast>Online Update VS gpk-update-viewer, what are the differences(gnome 3, 12.1)

I was wondering what the differences are in the updates that appear or the level of them, system/security/user perhaps, between the two programs Yast>Online Updates and Software Update aka gpk-update viewer?

Is it safer or ‘wiser’ to use one or the other?

This probably has been asked or explained many times, and I need to learn how to search better as well, so my apologies ahead of time.

On 08/12/11 02:46, l300lvl wrote:
>
> I was wondering what the differences are in the updates that appear or
> the level of them, system/security/user perhaps, between the two
> programs Yast>Online Updates and Software Update aka gpk-update viewer?
>
> Is it safer or ‘wiser’ to use one or the other?
>
> This probably has been asked or explained many times, and I need to
> learn how to search better as well, so my apologies ahead of time.
>
>

Yast > Online Update installs security Patches

The Updater applet in your desktop will install software updates too.

I use neither of those methods because I prefer more control.
I use: Yast > Software > Software Management
And having made the necessary switches on repos, I then use this method
to update:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/Software%20Management/system_update.png

You should learn about using the additional repositories and how to
maintain them effectively.

My Yast looks nothing like in your ss, perhaps it’s changed in 12.1 or Gnome 3?

As far as managing repos, I do need to learn about that, but for now I’m sticking to the standard repos, after reverting back from tumbleweed.

Is there any way to do the same updates using zypper, at least for the gpk update viewer updates/software updates, as that program is very glitchy and sometimes I almost can’t believe the updates finished properly as it will either take forever to ‘download’ and has no indication of what it’s doing, or it will run in what seems like an instant and disappear with again no indicator and just closes on it’s own. That is probably an intended method of Gnome devs, but they need to fix it lol.

On 2011-12-13 19:46, l300lvl wrote:
> My Yast looks nothing like in your ss, perhaps it’s changed in 12.1 or
> Gnome 3?

The photo is from QT (KDE) YaST, while you are using GTK (Gnome) YaST. The
package managers are very different.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

@robin; Thank you. That is understandable

1: It would appear that gpk can also display ‘security’ updates, i.e updates I would see in yast? Can all updates be run using gpk?
2: Is gpk package kit?

On 2011-12-18 20:36, l300lvl wrote:
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> @robin; Thank you. That is understandable
>
> 1: It would appear that gpk can also display ‘security’ updates, i.e
> updates I would see in yast? Can all updates be run using gpk?
> 2: Is gpk package kit?

I don’t know what is gpk. I talked of gtk, the toolkit of libraries gnome uses.

Yes, you can run updates using YOU in both versions.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Carlos
gpk-update-viewer == GNOME PackageKit Update Viewer

Running gpk-prefs will aloow you to configure how/when it runs as
well as repositories to check etc.


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Thank you, very much. That is the answer I’ve been seeking all along. I guess I was really asking 2 different questions.

I wasn’t aware that that’s what gpk-prefs actually was, as I never knew that was the command "Software Settings’ ran. I will try to become more familiar with the actual applications in the menu and what they refer to.

After running gpk-prefs aka “Software Settings” I see that all of my repositories enabled in Yast>Software Repositories are also enabled here, so they are the same by default in both places. This is the behavior I would hope for as a ‘novice’ and indeed what I expected to see, but in case anyone else is as curious as I was, Yast>Online Update and Software Update do the same updates by default.

While Yast seems like it is very useful, as of now it is too advanced for me to ‘know everything’, so I will probably have more questions down the line, but now I can get on with updates and not worry about borking everything!

I want to apologize if I was confusing. I need to work on my communication skills.

On 2011-12-18 22:40, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Carlos
> gpk-update-viewer == GNOME PackageKit Update Viewer

Ah, I see. I never use that.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2011-12-18 23:16, l300lvl wrote:
> I want to apologize if I was confusing. I need to work on my
> communication skills.

No need to apologize :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)