XTerm menus are not displayed anymore!

Hi,

This is very strange, I simply cannot see anymore the menus of XTerm (control+mouse buttons)
It displays only a small empty box!

I re-named/deleted the app-defaults/XTerm* files, my profile is clean, there is no .Xresources , I even created a new user, the problem stays…

I can only see the menus when I login on “failsafe” mode (that starts and displays JUST the XTerm)

if any ideas please let me know.

cheers

my OS: OpenSUSE 12.2 x64 (KDE4)

Please do not assume that others have the same way of working, or are even using the same programs as you do.

Apperently you are running in a GUI, which Desktop Environment, which one (KDE, Gnome, …)?

You are using a terminal emulation, the program xterm, or Konsole, or …?

What are you doing inside that program exactly (when there are more similar, take an example) using the control button and one (which one) of the mouse buttons. What do you expect that should happen, what happens instead.

This is the only way other people can try to recreate a their system what you do.

I e.g. can not remember having used a Ctrl key together with any mouse button for ages (if ever). And when you do not tell what you do, I can not even tell you what happens in my system, let alone search for solutions.

well… I mention on the end of my post : my OS: OpenSUSE 12.2 x64 (KDE4)
and I wrote about “xterm” not Konsole not anything else… as for the menus, I wrote “control+mouse buttons”

Am 30.11.2012 12:06, schrieb xotto:
> well… I mention on the end of my post :
> my_OS:OpenSUSE_12.2_x64(KDE4)_
> and I wrote about “xterm” not Konsole not anything else… as for the
> menus, I wrote “control+mouse buttons”
>
Works for me in xterm (this is on kde 4.9) I can later test it on 12.2
with the standard kde 4.8.
Btw tested both menus (left and right mouse + ctrl both are shown).


PC: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.5 | GTX 650 Ti
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.9.3 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 11.4 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | lamp server

Sorry, partly my fault. I like a top down approach and thus a start with OS and version, then DE and version, then application and version. Then what one does, what one expected, what happened instead.

But you are correct, most is there. I doubted about the xterm because you wrote XTerm and most people use Konsole in KDE and have a habit to call it X terminal or some other vague term.

Still no idea what the Ctrl with left, middle and right mouse button should do, but I see that Martin seems to use xterm. more often.

Am 30.11.2012 12:15, schrieb Martin Helm:
> Works for me in xterm (this is on kde 4.9) I can later test it on 12.2
> with the standard kde 4.8.
> Btw tested both menus (left and right mouse + ctrl both are shown).
>
Works with 4.8 as well (would have been surprised if kde has something
to do with it, but wanted to be sure).
Have you done any custom configuration to your xterm, which xterm
version do you have?


martinh@ganymed:~> rpm -q xterm
xterm-279-2.2.2.x86_64


PC: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.5 | GTX 650 Ti
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.9.3 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 11.4 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | lamp server

martin:

I have the same version as yours.

The menus were worked ok for a long time, just today I wanted to select the “secure keyboard” and realized the problem.
Seems a corruption of settings problem… I did not install anything new today, but the update manager installed some updates…
I think I will try to setup later (I am not near the pc now…) a custom .Xresources file…

cheers

Am 30.11.2012 12:36, schrieb hcvv:
> Still no idea what the Ctrl with left, middle and right mouse button
> should do, but I see that Martin seems to use xterm. more often.
>
Not too often, but I have a (virtual) machine with fluxbox as window
manager where I prefer xterm (and sometimes roxterm).
I do myself no special configurations to standard settings for xterm
though, just use the command line options of xterm to get the ttf fonts
and size I want as default.


PC: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.5 | GTX 650 Ti
ThinkPad E320: oS 12.2 x86_64 | i3@2.30GHz | 8GB | KDE 4.9.3 | HD 3000
eCAFE 800: oS 11.4 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | lamp server

On 2012-11-30 12:36, hcvv wrote:
> Still no idea what the Ctrl with left, middle and right mouse button
> should do, but I see that Martin seems to use xterm. more often.

Xterm is probably the best terminal out there. It appears very simple,
complexity is hidden. The menus kick in an atypical manner if you are
used to gnome or kde.

On the other hand, it doesn’t have defined hotkeys, so they don’t
interfere with text applications that use hotkeys themselves, which is
the reason I use it with Pine or midnight commander.

I have no idea why the OP has that problem. I’m using now 12.1 and it
works, that’s all I know so far…

If it works in safe mode hints that it may be related to the video
driver somehow :-?

You could try on a different desktop, to see if it is related to KDE.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 11/30/2012 01:16 PM, xotto wrote:
> but the update manager installed some updates.

i don’t have 12.2 so don’t know what was update lately, but sometimes
the kinds of symptoms you mention come from changing the video driver or
kernel, or both…

a look at /var/log/zypp/history might turn up such since changes you
last had the full complement of menus…

oh, or just try turning off “desktop effects”…if the menus return you
pretty much know you have a driver problem…then tell us your graphic
hardware and driver in use…

by the way, thanks for your question i learned a lot just trying to
figure out what you were talking about with Crtl+mouse menus…pretty
cool stuff…learn something every day…EVERY day.


dd

success!!

I risked this(*), but worked:

I just removed the xterm, then re-installed it, after a reboot was like before!

thanks for your replies!

(*) the zypper removed also these: icewm icewm-lite xdg-menu xdm xinit xorg-x11, but I installed them before the reboot.

To add one more data point - they work fine for me. However, the test I just did might be the first time I have “used” those menus with 12.2. I, like several others, find “xterm” very useful. But I rarely need to use the menus.

Yes, I also have Konsole open. But when I “ssh” to another system, I typically open a new xterm for that connection (all done by a shell script which, in effect, has all connection specific configuration).


Konsole - started with session startup, visible on all 4 KDE desktops. Used for routine command line stuff.

ssh to another system - do in an xterm
download an iso - do in an xterm
work with latex - open two xterms, one for editing (vi) and one for “make”, “xdvi” etc.
programming - open two xterms
do a bunch of rsyncs - open an xterm
write, test a shell script - open an xterm

On Fri 30 Nov 2012 02:16:01 PM CST, xotto wrote:

success!!

I risked this(*), but worked:

I just removed the xterm, then re-installed it, after a reboot was like
before!

thanks for your replies!

(*) the zypper removed also these: icewm icewm-lite xdg-menu xdm xinit
xorg-x11, but I installed them before the reboot.

Hi
Just a side note for future reference, running with the -f switch would
force a re-install;


zypper in -f xterm xtermset


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop
up 2 days 23:06, 4 users, load average: 0.64, 0.38, 0.17
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

Thanks for the tip Malcolm! I have no idea about the “-f” parameter on zypper

nrickert: I use the menus of the Xterm because I want to switch from time to time to “secure keyboard” , better safe than sorry when I am connected (ssh) to a datacenter…