XFCE 4.8.1 unable to place panel on second destop

Just upgraded from 11.3 to 11.4. Desktop is configured for two displays. Not TwinView or Xinerama. Panel settings in XFCE allows you to create a second panel but it will not move it to the second screen it deletes the panel. I have tried with old home directory and a clean empty home directory. I have also tried with root, the panel gets deleted when you try to move it.