X hanging at init 5

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#1

At boot, the system hangs before reaching runlevel 5. No X, no alternative non graphical shells.

Since I have a video card Radeon 9200 I checked the ATI issues. I am running with the radeonhd drivers as suggested. If I boot in failsafe mode, X starts with a really low definition (800x640?), but when booting normally, the system hangs again.

I tried to create a xorg.conf file. Sax hangs the same way as when booting. I created anyway a reasonable xorg.conf using

Xorg -configure

The first reboot works, from the second on I am stuck again.

I am running suse 11.2 32-bit on a AMD at 64 bit.

#2

Did you follow the guide here on the forums?

What’s the reason you run 32bit instead of 64bit ?

Edit: I just noticed your postcount, Welcome

#3

Yes, I did. The driver is properly installed and recognized.
The creation of xorg.conf was my last resort. And I do not understand why it worked only after the first reboot.

What’s the reason you run 32bit instead of 64bit ?

I tried 64bit first, same problem at boot. Plus other problems (library incompatibility) with work-related software (not included in suse). With previous versions of opensuse (10.3, 11.0), 32bit worked generally better, so I am still using it

#4

Mmmm, I’m lacking knowledge on the ATI front, please wait a bit.

#5

Does sax2 hang when you try to test? or when you save? or when you run?

I’ve seen cases where sax2 will hang when one tries the test, but if one simply goes straight to save with no test, it in some cases will save properly.

Also, note the general consensus (as of today) is that even for radeonhd hardware, the radeon driver is superior to the radeonhd. So try the radeon driver instead.

#6

I have the same problem.
I suppose is something related to the AMD architecture. By sheer chance I have the same Video Card (ATi Radeon 9200) on two different machines one a PIV the other an AMD. On the PIV all went well and X is running from the first moment, on the amd I cannot start init 5, the system just freezes. I checked, i have on both the xorg.radeonhd

For me it hangs when i run… i just entre sax2 in a console… it works for a bit, writes something and then hangs.

While looking for info i found out that the right driver would be radeon as radeonhd seems to support newer cards but…
that’s the only one i have in my repositories… I found the tar.gz of the radeon one on Xorg site but being quite a newbie for some things I still have to find out how to use it.

In much inenuity I thought I wold find it directly in the repositories.

#7

While looking for info i found out that the right driver would be radeon as radeonhd seems to support newer cards but…
that’s the only one i have in my repositories… I found the tar.gz of the radeon one on Xorg site but being quite a newbie for some things I still have to find out how to use it.

In much inenuity I thought I wold find it directly in the repositories.

The radeon driver is part of the xorg-x11-driver-video package, so you should have it already.

#8

I do have both
xorg-x11-driver-video and
xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd (they were installed by default during first installation).
Should it be enough to uninstall the second one for the other one to be loaded??

#9

I would have thought so, but sax2 might be needed if not.

#10

If you believe that radeonhd is being loaded in error, then yes, removing xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd should prevent it from being loaded. Xorg should be robust enough to then try the radeon driver, and if that fails, it should fall back to the vesa driver, and then to the fbdev driver.

I suspect another approach would be to blacklist the radeonhd driver, but I’ve never really tried that. There is a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ that one can edit to blacklist a driver.

I’m not in front of a Linux PC currently, so I can not provide any more details (as my memory is pathetic. :frowning: ).

#11

The blacklist file is in /etc/modprobe.d, it’s called “50-blacklist.conf”. To blacklist the radeonhd driver add this line at the end:


blacklist radeonhd

Reboot and it will not be loaded.

#12

I uninstalled the radeonhd
All is the same
I can only use the failsafe mode of very poor quality, have only part of the screen, refreshment of image is slow, the clock is stuck, images won’t appear

#13

Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file already in place? If so, it may have VESA mode or radeonhd hard coded. Did you remove any such file and reboot?

If such a file is NOT already in place, did you try booting direct to run level 3 (direct, and NOT via run level 5) and run with root permissions:

sax2 -r -m 0=radeon

Then restart and test.

Have you read the practical theory guide? openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users - openSUSE Forums

#14

As when launchin sax2 by itself…starts working then the monitor goes through “no signal” and everything hangs up.

The strange thing is that on another machine the same Vcard goes alright (even if the video is bad, but that’s probably fault of the new KDE) . I have no problem with mandriva or Ubuntu (I have both on the same machine., I hate ubuntu but it seems i shall have to subside…

#15

Do you have an fglrx rpm installed from a failed proprietary driver install ? If so, that could cause this behaviour.

#16

I never added the ATI repository. I had problems from the start and all the forums suggested to stick to the opensource xorg drivers…
I never installed the ati driver

#17

Polly argue, my guess is a corrupted install. While the radeon and radeonhd drivers as packaged in 11.2 are not great, they are not that bad.

A question, is this a clean install? Are you installing on top of an old openSUSE install with an existing user account in /home that you are trying to retain ?

#18

Might it be a monitor problem??? I don’t know if it may be be of any help bot having a look at the Sax2.log it only has mouse detection data, keyboard detection data and Server detection data

  Card0     =>  DomainId   : 0x0
	Card0     =>  BusId      : 0x1
	Card0     =>  SlotId     : 0x00
	Card0     =>  FuncId     : 0x0
	Card0     =>  Vendor     : ATI
	Card0     =>  Device     : RV280 5964
	Card0     =>  VID        : 0x1002
	Card0     =>  DID        : 0x5964
	Card0     =>  Module     : radeon
	Card0     =>  BusType    : AGP
	Card0     =>  Detected   : 1
	Card0     =>  Flag       : DEFAULT
	Card0     =>  SUB-VID    : 0x1043
	Card0     =>  SUB-DID    : 0xc008
	Card0     =>  DrvProfile : Depth24,Radeon,Virtual
]

and then it sops 48 lines vs 243 of a working system which has monitor detection next

#19

Its possible this is hardware, but unlikely. IMHO its a bad install.

My wife’s PC is an 32-bit AMD Sempon-2600 w/1GB (Epox EP-8K7A motherboard) w/AGP ATI RV280 (Radeon-9200Pro) graphics.

The radeon driver WORKS on her PC. Its not great. Special desktop effects are bad/poor and MUST be disabled. But it works with those disabled. No /etc/X11/xorg.conf file needed, although I can create one with sax2 and sax2 does not hang.

Hence I am suspicious of a bad install on this PC of yours.

#20

I made at least three installations on this pc (because of a grub problem)each time completely formatting the partition, changing the installation media in fear of a damaged DVD (even if the check was fine) installing both the 32 and the 64 bit…

Always the same problem only on this machine, only with suse…:frowning: