I left my browser with the opensuseforums page open and went out.
When I got back in I refreshed the page expecting it to tell me that I have to login again (as it normally does every few minutes!), and I was still logged in!
This is 5 hours later by the way.
If this is a forum bug, I like it, please don’t fix it :).
No I was wrong, it’s 7 hours!
++ respect to growbag, having to log-in every time I look away, close session etc is a proper pain, I have to re-size etc as well… There is no need! (?) (Is there?)
I have asked before and it was explained that it was to do with access to Novell. I never wanted access to Novell, just the forum.
Just a guess! Perhaps you are using the forum’s basic skin where I see can’t logout. maybe a bug too that is bugging me.
Yes, my page is set to default. But it’s always been on that, nothing has changed, well, I certainly didn’t change anything :).
It just now asked me to log in, but I clicked on login and it didn’t send me to the login page, just automatically showed me as logged in again!
Odd behaviour, but nice :D.
I’m wondering if it’s something to do with the power outages in Nürnberg they were having. Maybe they should be permanent ;).
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:36:01 +0000, wakou wrote:
> I have asked before and it was explained that it was to do with access
> to Novell. I never wanted access to Novell, just the forum.
Because it’s all one authentication system. Since the login grants
access to these forums and to (for those who own Novell products)
information on their product licenses and other sensitive customer
company information, the login has to be set to expire so as to not
compromise that data.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
to me, it is pure stupid to hamstring all openSUSE forum users just in
case we might also have sensitive customer information over on
Novell…and might be stupid enough to log on and THEN walk away from
our computer, in an uncontrolled office…where lurking in the corner
is someone just waiting to steal some Novell software, or what??
personally, if i ever had a need to access Novell i’d be doing it with
a different account, with a stronger user ID and strong password…
i do wonder just how many folks here actually need to protect their
Novell secrets? *
but, i’ve been though this before: my online broker account (with real
money at stake) allows a 12 hour sign in…and, several bank accounts
allow 6+ hours of sign in (google is what TWO WEEKS)…but, openSUSE
forums are not at all open, past one hour… duh!
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platinum
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:41:43 +0000, platinum wrote:
> now we have both
> the Studio and the build a geeko requiring THREE different logins
The reasoning (which I’m not involved in - just the messenger here) is to
reduce the number of logins to avoid complaints like this. And I would
actually prefer that Studio and “Build a Geeko” integrated as well.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
and, if they integrated ALL sign-ins that would at least strengthen
their reasoning…
as it is… well, you can see…
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platinum
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:34:19 +0000, platinum wrote:
> and, if they integrated ALL sign-ins that would at least strengthen
> their reasoning…
I agree. As I thought about it a bit more, the login was already
integrated for the Novell forums, so the implementation for OSF was
already implemented. A case of “we can’t control these other things, but
we can control what we do”. Since it’s maintained by the same technical
team, two different implementations would also mean more work to manage.
> as it is… well, you can see…
Yup. We control only what we control.
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
> Yup. We control only what we control.
are you saying that Novell does not own/control either Studio or geeko
builder?
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platinum
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:12:31 +0000, platinum wrote:
>> Yup. We control only what we control.
>
> are you saying that Novell does not own/control either Studio or geeko
> builder?
No. I’m saying that the group that handles these forums doesn’t, so they
control what they can control. 
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
ah, now i understand: if the controllers have a hammer their job is
looking for nails…and, there are no ‘job bosses’ at Novell in the
business of making sure someone is looking at the “big picture”…so,
the screws don’t get turned…
no wonder NOVL bobbles along under $5…
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platinum
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:54:28 +0000, platinum wrote:
> ah, now i understand: if the controllers have a hammer their job is
> looking for nails…and, there are no ‘job bosses’ at Novell in the
> business of making sure someone is looking at the “big picture”…so,
> the screws don’t get turned…
>
> no wonder NOVL bobbles along under $5…
You are of course welcome to perceive what you perceive. I’m just
telling you this is how it is. It happens in most companies that there
are some elements that don’t follow the established standards. Those who
do aren’t the ones in charge of those who don’t. I for one wish they
would, for the very reasons you indicate.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
i think i must have worked in a management structure in a former
existence… 
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platinum
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:29:04 +0000, platinum wrote:
> i think i must have worked in a management structure in a former
> existence…
LOL, I know what you mean.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
When I want to access novell forums and data, I have to re-login, even though I have come from a link in the opensuse forum (try clicking the sled or sles links on the forum), so the forum login is only for opensuse and not all novell.
The login on both opensuse and novel forums has been strange and erratic lately. Sometimes you stay logged in for quite a long time, sometimes not.
Also sometimes novell forums don’t accept the login link.
Perhaps a bug somewhere or is it the failover not working when a server goes down?
From experiences lately I got the idea that they were working on something concerning this. Sometimes being logged in for ages, having to relogin on Novell’s pages, then being thrown out whilst reading a long post. Things like this normally happen when I’m busy configuring things in a network.
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:16:01 +0000, whych wrote:
> When I want to access novell forums and data, I have to re-login, even
> though I have come from a link in the opensuse forum (try clicking the
> sled or sles links on the forum), so the forum login is only for
> opensuse and not all novell.
>
> The login on both opensuse and novel forums has been strange and erratic
> lately. Sometimes you stay logged in for quite a long time, sometimes
> not. Also sometimes novell forums don’t accept the login link.
>
> Perhaps a bug somewhere or is it the failover not working when a server
> goes down?
That sounds like a bug - I don’t believe that’s supposed to happen - if
your session is current with the auth servers, it should let you access
any part of the site that you’re authorized to access.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator