Works openSUSE 11 on HP 2133??

I have a new HP 2133 mini-notebook.
The HP works with novells linux SuSE Enterprise 10.
I dont like this old software.
I use on my other notebook (ASUS) at first openSUSE 10.3 and now openSUSE 11. I like openSUSE 11 and i would like to give a question?

Can i install openSUSE 11 on the HP 2133? (With an extern DVD-Rom)?
Whats abot the hardware?
-graphik card?
-card reader?
-wireless?
is it suportet?
does it work automatically?

I think it should, because on the HP 2133 the basic software was SuSE 10 and the differenc between openSUSE 11 not so big…
I mean it is the same distribution…

Can somenone help me…im not an expert! :wink:

There should be a thread around here for that very question

openSuSE 11, HP 2133 Mini-Note, Misc. Hardware Drivers - openSUSE Forums

I dont know if it’s resolved here, but this is one of a few threads I’ve seen floating around, probably should stick to those threads since they’ve already got some users w/ your very machine on them…

Good Luck!

Thank you…but i have just seen this thread.
Because the posts are a bit older and i knew and i saw in this and ohter forums, that users have problems with the work of (wireless and vga) i so posted this tread…

…hoping that maybe the mininotebook is now full supported by openSUSE 11 and some expert can give my some answers.

…than i can install openSUSE 11 and should not be afraid of problems…than im really only a normal user and not an expert…

What i really dont understand, is the fact that a SUSE 10 notebook is not full/same suported by openSUSE 10.x and 11.x

…sorry but this is “microsoft-kind”>:(
:’(

OpenSUSE 11.0 is definitely a good distro to use for the 2133. I just finished putting 11.0 KDE 4.1 onto mine and have had very few problems.

Some notes…

SUSE 11.0 KDE live CD works fine, no changes required on my 2133 to make this work. Installed with no problems to get a very basic system working with wired ethernet and 800x600 graphics.

First thing I did was add the community repos for KDE factory, backport and community so I could update to KDE 4.1 sharp’ish. KDE 4.0 is complete pants and isn’t worth spending the time of day on. 4.1 works well for a basic user, more advanced users will rightly ***** and moan.

Getting the wireless to work is a sinch if you forget the binary drivers and stick with ndiswrapper which is what I use for ALL my builds now. There’s so much documentation for this so take a look around. You only need to type 3-4 commands TOTAL so ignore the 10,000 word explanations from “experts”.

Video is the real p***ser for the 2133, at some point Via and HP will maybe read some of the posts and realize what a disaster this chip is or more specifically the lack of software that works is a disaster. DRI this, AGP that, patches and all that… for crying out loud lets just have an RPM that works please, HP you sold it, you do the development to make it work… not us.

Rant over…

Other people have had luck with Openchrome but for me the standard Vesa driver works fine. Video playback is pretty slow but if anyone bought this machine for video they only have themselves to blame. UMPC’s are not exactly intended as portable DVD players are they…? Still flash is not great but good enough for me.

Sound all works fine in 11.0 I haven’t tested the mic jack yet but basic sound is working OK.

Bluetooth again works straight out of the box, I have a PAN setup to my K800 mobile which is currently taking some strain with emails.

Suspend to RAM doesn’t work as a “known machine” configuration so I have yet to test and get this to work… Suspend to disk (aka hibernate) works a charm.

Web cam works out of the box although performance in Cheese (Google app) is very poor, Skype detects it fine although I must confess to not being sad enough to ever try that on a world wide call!!

I’m a recent convert from Gnome (sorry guys) but I have tested the Gnome version on 11.0 on the 2133 with much the same results.

So far these are the distros I have tried.

SUSE Ent Desktop 10 (Nothing more to say, just get rid of it)
OpenSUSE 10.3 Not a great experience
OpenSUSE 11.0 definitely my favorite now on KDE 4.1
Minbuntu Not bad at all, not better than 11.0 though in anyway

I think the big one here is to stick with ndiswrapper for wireless. It works fine with both KDE and Gnome network managers or their variation of and I have it working with full WPA security.

Don’t waste your time either trying to improve graphics, I’m no expert but after 4-5 different distros all not doing the business I’m not wasting anymore time on it.

Drop me a message if you have any specific questions and good luck.

If you don’t have a USB DVD-ROM (I do from and older Compaq model) then you’ll need to research the USB option.

Thanks! :wink:

Hey ccoveyduck,
I’m curious as to what your final results were using the VESA driver. I use OpenSuse11 on my desktop and much prefer it over Ubuntu/Minbuntu, which is what I’m currently running on my 2133 after much frustration trying to get 11 running. VESA seems to give me lots of wierd defects - the OpenSUSE menu in GNOME extends off to the left of the screen edge so I can’t read/use any of it, etc. I’d be pleased as p*ss if I could get 1024x600 (mine doesn’t have the 1280x600 screen) VESA without any of those wierd glitches that make the system basically unusable. Do you have an xorg.conf that you could post, by any chance?

I’ve been trying this but having some problems

I’ve got it working in Ubuntu 8.10 but not SuSE

Can someone explain exactly how to install wireless?
I don’t know what driver to use or where to get it from

I also noted that there is a new Via driver available which fixes the screen - in Ubuntu anyway. Also Dreamlinux (based on Debian like Ubuntu is) fixes the screen by default just using Vesa I think

spegru

Forget yast, there is a bug, configuration doesn t work!

For wireless:
Open a Konsole/Terminal:
Copie this in:

a) wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
b) tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
c) cd broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver
d) b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta_mimo.o

Restart the system! :wink:

Ok…wireless part is done…

About VIA graphic card drivers…

…i saw last time a new beta driver on the via main page…
it is for ubuntu, not for opensuse 11 but i think it s the same linux kernel and maybe it can work with this!

Taste it…but on your risk!:wink:

here is the link:

VIA Linux Portal

But it is the betadriver for ubuntu 8.10…i m not sure if it will work! I havn t taste it…:wink:

Attachment to my wireless post:

At first: you need a wired connection with the internet
Second: open a Konsole/Terminal and tip in:

su
your root passwort

third:

VGA part

seems like, there s no way to bing the ubuntu driver to work on openSUSE 11…at the moment we have to use VESA. Its not the result, i like to post here, but thats the f****** Reality!
I hope VIA will bring out a openSUSE-driver…
[faild]
>:(>:(>:(>:

On the Via website there is a SUSE 11 link, but I can not compile it, anybody help?

neillricketts wrote:
> On the Via website there is a SUSE 11 link, but I can not compile it,
> anybody help?

Why cannot you compile it? Are there error messages, or is that classified?

first I figured out the C++ parts weren’t installed, got that sussed.
Here are the instructions
For xorg version after 7.0
cd ./xf86-video-via-83.1.0/X11R7
chmod +x config_x11r7
chmod +x autogen.sh
chmod +x configure
./config_x11r7
./autogen.sh
make
make install

Here is the command line
neillricketts@linux-8qw2:~/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7> su
Password:
linux-8qw2:/home/neillricketts/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7 # chmod +x config_x11r7
linux-8qw2:/home/neillricketts/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7 # chmod +x autogen.sh
linux-8qw2:/home/neillricketts/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7 # chmod +x configure
linux-8qw2:/home/neillricketts/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7 # ./config_x11r7
-------- Start to copy driver source code into src--------
-------- Complete to copy driver source code--------
linux-8qw2:/home/neillricketts/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7 # ./autogen.sh
autoreconf: Entering directory .' autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext autoreconf: running: aclocal autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing autoreconf: running: libtoolize --copy libtoolize: config.guess’ exists: use --force' to overwrite libtoolize: config.sub’ exists: use --force' to overwrite libtoolize: ltmain.sh’ exists: use --force' to overwrite autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoheader autoreconf: running: automake --add-missing --copy --no-force autoreconf: Leaving directory .’
checking for a BSD-compatible install… /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane… yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p… /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk… gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)… yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles… yes
checking build system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for style of include used by make… GNU
checking for gcc… gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name… a.out
checking whether the C compiler works… yes
checking whether we are cross compiling… no
checking for suffix of executables…
checking for suffix of object files… o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler… yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g… yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89… none needed
checking dependency style of gcc… gcc3
checking for a sed that does not truncate output… /usr/bin/sed
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e… /usr/bin/grep
checking for egrep… /usr/bin/grep -E
checking for ld used by gcc… /usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld… yes
checking for /usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld option to reload object files… -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm… /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works… yes
checking how to recognize dependent libraries… pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor… gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files… yes
checking for sys/types.h… yes
checking for sys/stat.h… yes
checking for stdlib.h… yes
checking for string.h… yes
checking for memory.h… yes
checking for strings.h… yes
checking for inttypes.h… yes
checking for stdint.h… yes
checking for unistd.h… yes
checking dlfcn.h usability… yes
checking dlfcn.h presence… yes
checking for dlfcn.h… yes
checking for g++… g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler… yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g… yes
checking dependency style of g++… gcc3
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor… g++ -E
checking for g77… no
checking for xlf… no
checking for f77… no
checking for frt… no
checking for pgf77… no
checking for cf77… no
checking for fort77… no
checking for fl32… no
checking for af77… no
checking for xlf90… no
checking for f90… no
checking for pgf90… no
checking for pghpf… no
checking for epcf90… no
checking for gfortran… no
checking for g95… no
checking for xlf95… no
checking for f95… no
checking for fort… no
checking for ifort… no
checking for ifc… no
checking for efc… no
checking for pgf95… no
checking for lf95… no
checking for ftn… no
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler… no
checking whether accepts -g… no
checking the maximum length of command line arguments… 1572864
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object… ok
checking for objdir… .libs
checking for ar… ar
checking for ranlib… ranlib
checking for strip… strip
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions… no
checking for gcc option to produce PIC… -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works… yes
checking if gcc static flag -static works… yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o… yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared libraries… yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in… no
checking dynamic linker characteristics… GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs… immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible… yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries… yes
checking whether to build shared libraries… yes
checking whether to build static libraries… no
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag “CXX” to libtool
checking for ld used by g++… /usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld) is GNU ld… yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared libraries… yes
checking for g++ option to produce PIC… -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works… yes
checking if g++ static flag -static works… yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o… yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/i586-suse-linux/bin/ld) supports shared libraries… yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics… GNU/Linux ld.so
(cached) (cached) checking how to hardcode library paths into programs… immediate
appending configuration tag “F77” to libtool
checking for gcc… (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler… (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g… (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89… (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc… (cached) gcc3
./configure: line 20675: syntax error near unexpected token XINERAMA,' ./configure: line 20675: XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(XINERAMA, xineramaproto)’
linux-8qw2:/home/neillricketts/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7 # make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
linux-8qw2:/home/neillricketts/Desktop/xf86-video-via-83.4.1.0/X11R7 #

you can see the make file is not right?

Any help much appreciated,

Cheers

N