Wired internet only works when it wants too

English Network/Internet
#1

Hi, I’m very new to this OpenSUSE scene (only had a couple of days, and what a nightmare they have been!), actually I’m new to this whole linux thing. Anyways, my problem is that the wired internet is working on and off, or not even that, only when it wants too.

I have googled and googled, which by the way is not loading at all at the moment, and have not found anything. And i really don’t know what’s wrong.

Some more details:

  1. Finished installing suse 11.2 with gnome, yesterday. Internet, and google worked fine right off the bat. I have a laptop and so i suspended it to see if everything was working.

  2. Bring back the laptop, no internet. I reboot, internet works (google included).

  3. I leave the laptop alone, it goes to sleep mode (or what comes after screensaver). I bring it back, no internet, i reboot, no internet. So i go to windows.

  4. Came back to suse, now, and i have internet and google does not load!

This is all with wired internet, i haven’t had a chance to try the wireless (there isn’t a signal for me to try). However, i am positive it won’t work with the luck i’ve been having.

Also, a few days ago i had suse with kde and the internet worked continously. I know it can’t be related to the GUI, but it’s peculiar.

I don’t know what other details you’ll need and i probably won’t know how to acquire them, but bear with me and help me out. I really need this to work ASAP.

many thanks!

#2

Have configured ‘traditional withifup’ using YaST or are you using network manager?

#3

I do not think i have configured ‘tradiational withifup’ so i suppose i’m using network manager. I really just connect the cable and expect no trouble.

It always says im connected to the network, even when there is no active internet.

#4

I wonder if it has something to do with NetworkManager-gnome…If you still have KDE installed, then I’d suggest testing whether or not it’s Gnome-related.

#5

I do not have kde installed. I would need a tutorial for that. Maybe i should just install ubuntu and call it quits. Even if i manage to fix this i still have so many other issues.

I think however that the network manager is the same.

#6

Perhaps you try to start ‘yast’ and configure your network card with the traditional ‘ifup’ method. This works for almost everyone.

#7

How do i go about doing that? I know what and where yast is. But i dont know how to use it.

Yeah, i know, not too good at the linux thing, what am i doing in linux then? openfoam, stupid, beautiful thing… (and ofcourse it doesnt work either)

#8

Start Yast - Network - Network settings. In the General tab you can select Traditional method. Configure the network card(s) to use DHCP. Done.

It looks like the driver of the network card does not unload properly at suspend, therefore does not reload.

You can also configure the powermanagement not to go into suspend.

#9

Ok so far, so good, internet is working, even after suspending and putting it to hybernate. However, google does not load still. Does this make sense to anyone? I do need gmail to work here.

#10

What do you mean by “Google does not load”.

You mean that you use Konqueror or Firefox or another browser and that you can browse through all (many) Internet web-sites except Google

#11

Exactly that! Not just google, but anything related to google, like gmail (these are the only ones i use, search and mail).

#12

I can not understand that. When you can browse The Shell global homepage - Global, but not Google that can only be the case when Google is down. No error messages, nothing?

#13

hcvv wrote:
> that can only be the case when Google is down.

or, if blocking google in hosts.deny (or other ways/places…like
maybe behind the great wall and . . .)

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palladium

#14

Well, ofcourse but i get no warnings etc. It is almost as if it wouldnt connect to google but kept trying endlessly. Gmail hasnt been down any of the times i tried (well worked right before and right after).

Also, i havent explicitly blocked it and it did work before.

Its one of those mysteries, probably caused by something else i did entirely unrelated.

#15

clear all google cookies and your cache…try again…

if it doesn’t work, press F5 (while still trying to load google), does
it load now?

if trying in firefox, then also try in lynx and konqueror…can you
get there with other browsers?

if you can’t get there in any browser, then put this in the address
location bar: http://74.125.79.147/

can you get to google now??

if still you can get to google, try un-enabling addons (are you using
firefox?) until you can get to google…then, don’t turn back on the
last one you turned off…

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palladium

#16

Well i did not need to do anything, seeing as gmail works now. Mind you, im not in my house at the moment, but the wired network should be the same (im at a university, and i live in the university dorm).

Anyways, just another question, how do i manage wireless connections now that the network manager has dissapeared? At least from plain sight.

#17

Disco Caine wrote:
> Well i did not need to do anything, seeing as gmail works now. Mind you,
> im not in my house at the moment, but the wired network should be the
> same (im at a university, and i live in the university dorm).

well…if you can use gmail at home and not at school you probably
need to ask the school’s network administrator why not!

or you need two different profiles, one for home (which you already
have) and a different one for school (which will work)…

> Anyways, just another question, how do i manage wireless connections
> now that the network manager has dissapeared? At least from plain sight.

someone else has to answer that…i can’t remember the last time i
used such a manager…mine always seems to “just work” (since i moved
to xDSL via ethernet with DCHP and stopped using an external modem for
dial up)…

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palladium