Seccond is the sound. OpenSuse always had sound issues, but with 13.1 this is rlly getting annoying. Neither STEAM or Wine has sound. After digging a bit i managed to get steam sound working with runtime=0. For wine instead, nothing. The games i try they all lack sound (actually 2). It is not Wine or game related since tests in WineHQ - Age of Conan unchained 3.x (for Age of Conan which is one of the 2 games i play) say that the sound works.
I also posted for help on winehq, posting here as well in the hopes that i can hear some screams inside my games :).
forgot about that, could have saved me a few hours of digging on forums :). Now both steam and wine have sound by default. Amarock crashes but i will fix that later. Thx for the help. One question thou, what are the drawbacks of not using pulse ? (i expect there are some since OpenSuse is using it since…ever).
Hm, I’m not using pulseaudio and I don’t miss anything.
There was a time period, when you couldn’t get sound in GNOME without PA, but that was fixed over a year ago and didn’t really bother me much because I only use KDE anyway…
I don’t know all of PA’s features (as I said, I don’t and never did use it), but at least it allows to set the volume independently for every application. And it provides an easy mean to put an applications in/output to a certain device (again, independent for each application) AFAIK.
And no, openSUSE is not using it since ever, it got introduced as defqault around 11.3 or 11.4 IIRC (or was it 12.1?), and you can easily opt out still.
On 2013-11-23 21:26, wolfi323 wrote:
> I don’t know all of PA’s features (as I said, I don’t and never did use
> it), but at least it allows to set the volume independently for every
> application. And it provides an easy mean to put an applications
> in/output to a certain device (again, independent for each application)
> AFAIK.
It allows several apps simultaneous use of sound. Some apps grab the
sound device and hold on it even if they are not actively using sound,
and other apps can not use it, because it is already in use.
Years ago I had that problem. Firefox, for instance, when using flash or
a page with sound. If I left the tab open after the sound played, I
could not play a movie with xine. With some soundcards this is not a
problem, but for me it was, and pulse solved it.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Yeah right. Actually I was contemplating if I should mention that or not.
I decided not to, because normally this shouldn’t be an issue. ALSA has the dmix plugin for a long time already (setup by default on openSUSE), which supports simultaneous access to the soundcard just as pulseaudio does.
The main problem is, that applications using the legacy OSS system will still block all other apps but you have the same problem with pulseaudio AFAIK (you’ll need padsp to use them).
The problem you mention I had as well with one specific motherboard chipset in some of the earlier openSUSE versions, but it works fine now without PA (that one is still on 12.3). But I think we had this before in another thread…
> Yeah right. Actually I was contemplating if I should mention that or
> not.
> I decided not to, because normally this shouldn’t be an issue. ALSA has
> the dmix plugin for a long time already (setup by default on openSUSE),
> which supports simultaneous access to the soundcard just as pulseaudio
> does.
Ah, I haven’t used that in long time. I use mostly gnome or gnome
derivatives, and then pulse is the default.
> The main problem is, that applications using the legacy OSS system will
> still block all other apps but you have the same problem with pulseaudio
> AFAIK (you’ll need padsp to use them).
Right.
> The problem you mention I had as well with one specific motherboard
> chipset in some of the earlier openSUSE versions, but it works fine now
> without PA (that one is still on 12.3). But I think we had this before
> in another thread…
Very possibly.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Nowadays even on a KDE installation pulse is used by default.
But that was changed much later than for GNOME, which was more bound to PA right from the start.
And PulseAudio was even designed as drop-in replacement for GNOME’s then used sound system ESD.
