Hi,
This is my First post, i dont know if every ones noticed that the relesed screen shots of windows seven are looking more like Linux and I have tried vista and have decided it is rubbish, i still prefer windows xp and after thay suspend its support i will need an upgrade so i decided on looking at linux and ive just seen the screen shots of opensuse 11.1, its begining to look a lot like windows except its open source and as soon as its released i am switching over, though i would rather not bin offfice 2007, its the only good think microsoft is releasing thease days lol!
If You are not a corporate user, OpenOffice will work for You just as good as MS Office…
By the way…guys from Redmond should ‘thank’ KDE developers for the idea (look at the GUI of W7;))
Just because you’re running linux doesn’t mean you have to ditch all of your favorite Windows programs. It is always a good idea to find open-source alternatives regardless of what OS you run, but if you just cant seem to get used to Open Office you can still run Microsoft office with Wine. You can use Cedega or Crossover office which are commertialy available ports of Wine, but for something as simple as Office 2007 you’ll probably be able to get away with the vanilla build of wine available in the repositories of almost every distro out there.
Read more at WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD and Mac OS X and Wine - openSUSE
climbinghigh92 wrote:
> Hi,
> This is my First post, i dont know if every ones noticed that the
> relesed screen shots of windows seven are looking more like Linux and I
> have tried vista and have decided it is rubbish, i still prefer windows
> xp and after thay suspend its support i will need an upgrade so i
> decided on looking at linux and ive just seen the screen shots of
> opensuse 11.1, its begining to look a lot like windows except its open
> source and as soon as its released i am switching over, though i would
> rather not bin offfice 2007, its the only good think microsoft is
> releasing thease days lol!
I install MS Office on my Linux desktops… why not? Doesn’t mean
you have to use Microsoft Office, but it’s nice to have as an option
for those files that OpenOffice can’t handle.
Granted, I have not tried MS Office 2007 yet… only up to 2003.
cjcox wrote:
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> I install MS Office on my Linux desktops… why not? Doesn’t mean
> you have to use Microsoft Office, but it’s nice to have as an option
> for those files that OpenOffice can’t handle.
>
> Granted, I have not tried MS Office 2007 yet… only up to 2003.
Screenshot of Linux running MSIE with Apple’s QuickTime playing
a trailer and Microsoft PowerPoint where you can print to PDF
(something hard for Windows to do).
Sorry I alwas work with OpenOffice. And i always repair damaged MS Office Word doc’s or Excel Sheets with OpenOffice. Always when i was asked for version troubles with MS Office documents, was my answer, OpenOffice in a Portable_Version für the Winschrott users.
To convert the doc in a earlier version and made them compatible for the users MS Office version they used at home.
I personally think 7 looks more like a mush of Vista and Office 07, which considering who is in charge of the project, is how it should look.
Looking at the latest bench test’s it is coming along rather nicely, already ahead of vista was at this point.
I actually had to give up on OpenOffice and head back to microsoft Office. After writing a 280 page document, which was incredibly slow to load and work on in open office. After converting it and loading it into microsoft office to check before sending it off, I found all the formating had screwed up. I go back occasionally to open office, but always check everything in microsoft office now.
I agree. The interoperability between the upstream OOo and MS Office is terrible. Sometimes, even with openoffice on opensuse, I get the formatting messed up. It is especially disturbing while dealing with .docx format documents on OOo. Tables, comments, and picture allignment are just some of the things to name here. If it normal text, I am good with openoffice, but as soon as the document needs to have other ‘more complicated’ stuff, even Google Docs beats openoffice.
Great thing to ease the migrate off Windows is start using the open source versions now so they are familiar in Linux as well. All of these are available on Windows as well as Linux.
- Using OpenOffice instead of MS Office is one.
- Using Thunderbird for email is another and if you use Gmail the combination of Thunderbird (IMAP email), Lightening (Calendar) and the Google Contacts Add-In is working towards replacing Outlook/Exchange
- Using Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, or even Opera
- Using Gimp instead of Photoshop
- Using Pidgin instead of Trillian
- Using Scribus instead of Pagemaker/ Publisher/ etc.
- Using Inkscape instead of Illustrator
- Using DIA in
stead of Visio
… of course KDE has their own bunch of applications but I don’t know if they work well ported to Windows.
Why not ? Cause it costs a ton!
Can’t say I have a had a need for this, but in the past when I had to open Microsoft Office documents of a version higher than the one I had I’ve always used one of the viewers as available from http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/downloads/FX101321101033.aspx?pid=CL100570421033
Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to install one of these under Wine (assuming it actually runs, didn’t check) instead of a costly and bulky office 2007? I’m fairly certain the same applies here as it does to for example running IE on linux though, you still need a valid Windows license to make use of these products.
(Oh and now I’m posting anyways… why do you (and some others) use this strange “email-like” quote style that seems to involve using color tags and prefixing everything with a ‘>’ instead of just using the quote blocks as the forum software provides them for us? I personally find these a lot easier on the eye)
Well I never get win vista :beat-up: it is rubbish, I will wait for Win7 and see what comes out of it.
If Win7 is not good to I`ll wait for next one.
Suse-pro
I wouldn’t hold my breath to expect anything good about Windows 7. Unless of course they totally do an overhaul to Windows all-together. About 80% of people I talk to say that they can’t stand Vista, about 15% of people have told me that they haven’t even bothered, and the others say that they don’t see anything wrong with Vista because apparently they have configured Vista to they way that works for them. Now I know nothing about Vista but can be sure that I WILL NOT pay their obscene price for Windows Vista. Most likely though, I know that when I get a Laptop (Notebook) it will have Vista on it. Now, I know nothing about Linux except that it’s somewhat easier than when I first attempted to figure it out before when I tried SuSE 8 and Fedora (when it was known as Fedora Core at the time). This OpenSuSE has opened my eyes though from being in the Windows world, though I still have Windows XP.
Most people got a first negative impression of Vista by using it on hardware that was either their old system or by using it on a budget PC.
Now as to why you need massive specs for Vista… I’ve no idea. However since windows 7 will have a lot in common with Vista even if they don’t change anything it will run a lot better on everyones newer hardware. Also Vista mainly needs a LOT of RAM… and I just upgraded my server and 2GB of RAM was 22 euro, it’s almost free 
Personally I’m starting to like Vista, it does look a lot better than XP and the search option in the file browser… at first I thought it was only for people who forget where they leave files. But hey… it even works pretty nice for finding a particular function in ‘some’ java file in ‘some’ directory… type it in in after browsing to the directory you know it’s in and its found in seconds.
I’d love to have the search of Vista’s explorer in Dolphin along with the other file display options (I quite like the tiles view for folders with lots of files in them, and the tiles view for a map containing a lot file on which I need short bit of info but no sorting columns)
Axeia:; do thing Win 7 is 50%+ better then Win Vista,I thing Win7 need more ram other thing then Vista?
Windows 7 uses less Ram than Vista
From the sounds of it, Windows 7 = Vista SP 3 (+/-) although I am hearing that the service packs are making Vista better but I’m still not changing by choice.
Another things I’ve heard is that a fair number of Vista’s initial issues were because device drivers were not built to work with Vista (and thus nothing else)
It doesn’t really matter what Windows 7 looks like, its the fact that its a Microsoft product and on past performance I expect that it will be rushed out and delivered in a never ending stream of daily updates :\ Anyway, many Linux desktops are designed to look like Windows to ease the transition for people (like OpenSUSE having a Windows style task bar).
As for Office 2007, I tried a Demo on my Dad’s new PC and this is how using it made me feel: >:( Totally frustrating.
Why did they have to hide most the features I usually use??
Its probably the worst designed piece of software I’ve tried considering its mainly used by users of previous versions. I would choose OpenOffice even if Office 2007 was free. (And I miss the PaperClip LOL)lol!
Seriously though, I’m done with Windows. XP was not a good OS either. I will use Linux from now on on my laptop and continue with my Mac desktop. With these two excellent alternatives I just do not see any point in Windows at all.
I haven’t tried 7 yet but I do run Vista. I got it when SP1 came out. I haven’t had one bit of trouble with it. It may be Microsoft’s best OS to date. You do need newer hardware to run it.
However, a friend of mine just had to have Vista and he got it when it first came out. He had a lot of problems, problems that are almost all worked out now.
As for Office…I use 2003 and run it with Crossover. If I had 2007 I would probably use Virtualbox and run it with that.
Windows 7 Beta is pretty good, I’ve been playing around with the 64bit version and it’s nice although you end up running a mixed system since all the apps you add on top are 32bit. It’s not problematic, it’s just sad that’s the state of 64bit on Windows in 2009. I was hopeful that W7 would be the first 64bit-only OS from Microsoft but I guess with the whole “let’s get away from the Vista stigma” there was a need (real or imagined) to offer an upgrade path for businesses who want to stay 32bit.
I’m not sure it really makes sense to compare openSUSE 11.1 to Windows 7 since W7 isn’t even released yet and by the time it does openSUSE 11.2 will be out.
As for oS 11.1 vs. Vista, things haven’t changed that much in the general Linux vs Windows “battle”. Depending on your resources, needs and wants you should select the appropriate operating system. Personally, I think Vista is pretty good, it was just the initial transition woes + UAC that created the stigma around Vista (Apple’s popular I’m A Mac/PC ads perpetuating, shall we say, ‘half-truths’ didn’t help either).
Yeah everyone saying now m$7 is good and I`m saying my self wait one year or so more or less.May the picture turn around and the people find that win7 is not so good what they saying.
Microsoft did it again copying linux,may apple and so on.
I ask my self why Microsoft can`t make there own OS:????