Scaling in mate control panel —> display is set on “auto detect”. Other available options by radio buttons are 100% and 200%. At 100% that appears to be the autodetected setting. 200% expands the display window to take over the entire screen. Not usable a 200%.
I have multiple versions of gnome and also kde. I will look at them for my assessment of picture quality but I have already chosen not to use them.
@tckosvic would seem color display management is lacking in MATE, need to find something third party by the looks which is possibly why your seeing what your seeing…
I think you probably have a point as I have a LG HDR screen which works in HDR in Windows. But as far as I know it is not possible or difficult to get that to work in Linux. See this page from the Arch crowd for example. HDR monitor support - ArchWiki
So maybe you have a HDR monitor? And that’s not supported in Opensuse unless anyone else on here can tell us how?
I remember reading a similar comparison between the sound quality on Linux & Windows; I’ll see if I can find the discussion if anyone is sufficiently interested.
A new OpenSuSE user asserted sound was “richer” on his Windows system and this led to a fairly detailed technical discussion. However it became apparent the perceived “richer” sound resulted from Windows processing the original signal before output (I think by boosting its amplitude at the lower- and upper-frequency ends of the sound spectrum), but OpenSuSE reproduced the sound as recorded (i.e. with a flat response curve).
I believe the person concerned went back to Windows on that ground alone.
Fiddling with the signal like that without upsetting the transient response isn’t simple either.
Recently I’ve had occasion to use someone else’s “Windows 11 Home” laptop and I suspect Microsoft may have done something similar with the video there; for example, the colours and crispness of the startup images are quite striking.
I guess it’s a cultural thing. Personally, I very much prefer the OpenSuSE design approach. Replay the A/V as it is!!
For the records, the discussion about sound is this.
There is something similar about font rendering, which can be tweaked to an extent in Linux and openSUSE too, but I’m not aware of similar “tricks” about the full desktop rendering in general.
Sure, I’m not suggesting there’s some general treatment of both sound & graphics.
Personally, I wouldn’t use my laptop or desktop for quality sound reproduction, however I expect the (now very old) Luxman amplifier & Celestion speakers in the lounge room to reproduce the original performance as far as possible, not some “enhanced” version of it.
I wonder what happens to transients when signals are processed by differentially adjusting the gain at one or more points in the spectrum too. Remember Fourier transforms?
There’s a good reason why some audio shops don’t like prospective customers testing their offerings with piano DVDs.
I said in the opening that I couldn’t look at windows 10 and openSUSE leap simultaneously. I don’t have any good imaging capability that would be good enough to distinguish what I observe. I also said, I have no imaging capability that would be of any quality close to what I see with my eyes. I also said many times that this is subjective.
Please read the thread before you make snide comments.
@tckosvic, what if you installed Oracle VirtualBox and set up two virtual machines, one with a Tumbleweed installation in it, the other one with a Windows 10 installation?
That way you could arrange for side-by-side views and even get fullscreen views of your virtual machines such that you could switch back and forth between say virtual Tumbleweed and the one on bare metal - as well as between those and Windows 10.
Don’t overlook that Oracle VirtualBox is also available on Windows 10, therefore, set-up virtual machines on Linux could easily be reused on Windows 10’s VirtualBox, too. That means, on Linux you could compare original bare-metal Linux with the virtual machine installation in fullscreen mode, same goes for Windows 10 bare-metal vs. virtual.
So that would be a way to compare live systems and even play with their parameters to check back and forth for settings for best views.
Another thing, you can have snapshots of each of your virtual machines and each state they might be in, such that nothing would ever be lost and old results can be restored at any time.
Finally, you could take your virtual machines with you on an external SSD, maybe to your friend’s computer to see what results might look like there. You could make screenshots of your views - most importantly, those resulting from your bare-metal installations of Tumbleweed and Windows 10 and easily share them with - us?
Maybe that would yield new insights? Anyways, good luck! - Regards, M.
Let me doubt about it. VBox uses a “virtual display” so if Win* is doing any sort of gamma correction or color temperature correction for physical displays you are unlikely, to say the least, to see any difference in VMs.
I asked AI about it , here’s the answer , if I may present it to you in this forum:
Answer
The visual differences between Windows 10 and openSUSE Leap might indeed be noticeable, but not necessarily due to inherent sharpness or crispness. Several factors could contribute to perceived visual differences: Display Rendering Variations
Linux distributions like openSUSE can have slightly different default display settings compared to Windows 10
Different desktop environments (MATE in this case) may handle font rendering and scaling differently2
Graphics drivers and display configurations can impact overall visual clarity
Potential Factors Affecting Visual Perception
Font anti-aliasing settings
Default screen resolution and scaling
Graphics driver optimizations
Desktop environment-specific rendering techniques
Your VirtualBox comparison idea is actually quite clever for investigating these differences. By running both systems in similar hardware contexts, you could systematically compare their visual characteristics. However, keep in mind that virtualization itself might introduce subtle rendering variations. Recommendation
To get the most accurate comparison, you might want to:
Ensure identical screen resolution
Match display scaling settings
Compare font rendering configurations
Use the same graphics drivers where possible
The perceived differences are likely subtle and might vary depending on specific hardware and configuration details.
According to that answer there might be some merit comparing views in VBox, however, it might not be as easy going as I previously thought.
Thank you @OrsoBruno for your comment, without it I probably would not have asked AI about this. Now I even learned something.
I hope showing AI results would not offend anybody here, otherwise just leave it out, it is never worth it offending anybody here, I guess. - Regards, M.
I already have libvirt vm of tumbleweed and also win10 vm. But I think they run some display processes on each that are from the vm and not what you run when running from a direct boot. I don’t think this is a valid comparison.
I did try looking at the same image with tumbleweed vm, windows10 vm, and openSUSE leap 15.6 host. I saw no obvious differences between side-by-side vms. I do think that the vm images of the same image were sharper and crisper to my eyes than the same image in the host. Again, completely subjective.
At the risk of being criticized for opening new question in an existing one, has any one attributed better graphics quality using the same hardware to either wayland or 11?
“Better quality” is quite subjective, but at the time of this writing color management on X11 seems more complete / easier to achieve than on Wayland, maybe several apps are not completely ready for Wayland yet.