Windows 7 won't boot after using live dvd

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Hi,

I need some help, please.

I used an opensuse 12.1 live dvd on an asus n71v laptop, with windows 7 installed. Ever since, when booting windows, it starts a ‘first time use setup’; I’m asked to register a new user and can’t login as a user that was already on the windows installation.

Please note that I didn’t properly shutdown after using the live dvd; halfway through shutting down, I removed the dvd, as a result the laptop didn’t shutdown completely, so I just pressed the power button for ten seconds.
The HDD has two partitions:
sda1, fat32, label: recovery, flags: hidden, lba, type
sda2, ntfs, label: os, flags: type
sda3, extended, flags: lba, type
sda5, ntfs, label: data, flags: type
sdb1, fat32, label: recovery, flags: hidden, lba, type
sdb2, ntfs, label: os, flags: type
sdb3, extended, flags: lba, type
sdb5, ntfs, label: data, flags: type
(all the same size as the sda partitions)
When using the live dvd and selecting ‘boot from hard disk’, no boot device is found.

On an ironic side-note, the laptop belongs to my parents-in-law and I used the live dvd with the intention of not harming their system…

Yes, I realize this way more of a windows problem then a suse problem, but the windows guys tell me otherwise :wink:

Thank you very much in advance for any help!!!

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On 12/25/2011 02:06 PM, John Paul wrote:
>
> I used an opensuse 12.1 live dvd

this is all very strange, first off because openSUSE doesn’t have a live DVD

> on an asus n71v laptop, with windows 7
> installed. Ever since, when booting windows, it starts a ‘first time use
> setup’; I’m asked to register a new user and can’t login as a user that
> was already on the windows installation.

if you used a DVD (as said you did) you must have started an install
process which would (could) leave Windows and the entire disk in a
confused state when you messed up the shutdown…

on the other hand, if you were using a live CD and was careful not to
begin an install process then i can’t imagine how you could have damaged
your Windows system even by not letting Linux complete its shutdown
routine…

so, something about your situation doesn’t ring true…sure sounds like
you did use a DVD and damaged the Windows drive, or you used a live
CD, mounted the win partitions and changed them somehow, or you used a
live CD and began an install process, and then aborted it with the power
button…

> Please note that I didn’t properly shutdown after using the live dvd;
> halfway through shutting down, I removed the dvd, as a result the laptop
> didn’t shutdown completely, so I just pressed the power button for ten
> seconds.

hmmmm.

> The HDD has two partitions:
> sda1, fat32, label: recovery, flags: hidden, lba, type
> sda2, ntfs, label: os, flags: type
> sda3, extended, flags: lba, type
> sda5, ntfs, label: data, flags: type
> sdb1, fat32, label: recovery, flags: hidden, lba, type
> sdb2, ntfs, label: os, flags: type
> sdb3, extended, flags: lba, type
> sdb5, ntfs, label: data, flags: type
> (all the same size as the sda partitions)
> When using the live dvd and selecting ‘boot from hard disk’, no boot
> device is found.

no, it is not two partitions, it is two disk with several partitions on
each, and it kinda looks like it is running some level of RAID…why
people use RAID on a laptop i don’t know…but…

> On an ironic side-note, the laptop belongs to my parents-in-law and I
> used the live dvd with the intention of not harming their system…
>
> Yes, I realize this way more of a windows problem then a suse problem,
> but the windows guys tell me otherwise :wink:

sorry to say but i don’t think it is either a Window’s problem or a
Linux problem, to me it looks a whole lot like a user’s
problem…inappropriate user procedures…first you should know if you
were using a DVD or a Live CD, and you should have never inserted the
DVD in a machine without full intention of doing an install, and was
prepared to do so…

if you had a live CD you then i don’t know what you did, but the default
boot of an openSUSE Live CD will write not one bit of information to the
disks…so, how did the Windows boot system get damaged? even with the
powerbutton shutdown there should have been no lasting effects…

really, if the data on the computer is valuable to your in-laws you
probably are best off not messing with it any more until someone here
with a LOT more windows knowledge than me can try to help…i think
if you have the original Windows install (or rescue) disk you might be
one easy step from recovery…but, i can’t help you with that because it
IS a Window’s problem, a user induced Window’s problem…

hang tight and do not fiddle with it until all the data is lost…

> Thank you very much in advance for any help!!!

sorry, i doubt if i was helpful…but, give you some stuff to think
about while waiting on windows helper.

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http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software
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On 12/25/2011 02:06 PM, John Paul wrote:
> sda1, fat32, label: recovery, flags: hidden, lba, type
> sda2, ntfs, label: os, flags: type
> sda3, extended, flags: lba, type
> sda5, ntfs, label: data, flags: type
> sdb1, fat32, label: recovery, flags: hidden, lba, type
> sdb2, ntfs, label: os, flags: type
> sdb3, extended, flags: lba, type
> sdb5, ntfs, label: data, flags: type

hmmmm…i think i should have also said:

-it is a holiday so it might be a while before someone knowledgeable
comes along…and

-when they do they will probably want to know more about the set up than
you have given above…so IF you have an openSUSE Live CD boot from
it and in a terminal run and please please show us the terminal
input/output from


df -hlT
cat /proc/partitions
cat /etc/fstab
mount

copy/paste the in/output back to this thread using the instructions
here: http://goo.gl/i3wnr

i’m not sure that the helper will need all, or also others but maybe it
will be just right and you can get an answer without another back and
forth…

–
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http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software
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On 12/25/2011 03:46 PM, DenverD wrote:
> copy/paste the in/output back to this thread using the instructions
> here: http://goo.gl/i3wnr

sorry, i see now i missed one, please show also the /n/output of

sudo /sbin/fdisk -l

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DD
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@DenverD,

How do you think he would create all that output? I doubt he will boot that live-whatever again. And his Windows system is not booting.

I guess first we need answers to the questions you asked earlier. What did the OP boot from and what did he do then.

And how did he get that disk/partition information he provided (and misinterpreted) in the his first post.

The whole is a complete riddle and as long as we do not get better/factual information we should not even try to guess what this is about.

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Firstly, thank you guys very much for helping me out on christmas!

Secondly, it’s a DVD, not a CD.
I received it at an opensuse 12.1 launch party. On the back of the sleeve it says: This DVD includes everything you need to get your desktop, laptop or server up and running with linux. You can also take 12.1 for a test drive before you install it. Just boot your computer from this DVD. That sounds like a live dvd to me…
When booting from the DVD, I can choose between booting from the hard drive, running gnome live, running kde, installing opensuse, memory check, etc.

Thirdly, I’m using the live DVD right now. As windows doesn’t boot, I have no other way to access the system.

@DenverD, I do know it’s a user problem, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Here’s the suggested output:

linux@linux:~> sudo /sbin/fdisk -lDisk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xf491d069

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1              63    34828919    17414428+  1c  Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2        34828920   279022199   122096640    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       279023616   976771071   348873728    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5       279025664   976771071   348872704    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 969021 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xaed32ea1

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1              63    34816319    17408128+  1c  Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb2   *    34816320   279010367   122097024    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb3       279011328   976773119   348880896    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5       279013376   976771119   348878872    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[HR][/HR]
linux@linux:~> df -hlT
Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs         rootfs    4.2G  2.6G  1.7G  62% /
udev           tmpfs     1.5G  8.0K  1.5G   1% /dev
devtmpfs       devtmpfs  1.5G  8.0K  1.5G   1% /dev
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.5G  1.1M  1.5G   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sr0       iso9660   4.2G  4.2G     0 100% /livecd
/dev/loop0     ext4      4.2G  2.6G  1.7G  62% /
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.5G  884K  1.5G   1% /run
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /media
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.5G  884K  1.5G   1% /var/lock
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.5G  884K  1.5G   1% /var/run
[HR][/HR]
linux@linux:~> cat /proc/partitions
major minor  #blocks  name

   8        0  488386584 sda
   8        1   17414428 sda1
   8        2  122096640 sda2
   8        3          1 sda3
   8        5  348872704 sda5
   8       16  488386584 sdb
   8       17   17408128 sdb1
   8       18  122097024 sdb2
   8       19          1 sdb3
   8       21  348878872 sdb5
   7        0    4457984 loop0
[HR][/HR]
linux@linux:~> cat /etc/fstab
devpts  /dev/pts          devpts  mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
proc    /proc             proc    defaults        0 0
sysfs   /sys              sysfs   noauto          0 0
debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto          0 0
usbfs   /proc/bus/usb     usbfs   noauto          0 0
/dev/root / defaults 1 1
[HR][/HR]
linux@linux:~> mount
devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=1537760k,nr_inodes=209902,mode=755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,relatime)
/dev/sr0 on /livecd type iso9660 (ro,relatime)
clicfs on /read-only type fuse.clicfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0)
/dev/loop0 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,barrier=0,data=ordered)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=755)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,release_agent=/lib/systemd/systemd-cgroups-agent,name=systemd)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuacct,cpu)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=18,pgrp=1,timeout=300,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct)
tmpfs on /media type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=755)
tmpfs on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
tmpfs on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,relatime)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
hugetlbfs on /dev/hugepages type hugetlbfs (rw,relatime)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime)
none on /proc/fs/vmblock/mountPoint type vmblock (rw,relatime)
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Correct. I have one of those also. Got them on the Dutch Release Party.

But as long as you use them as live DVD, it will not touch your disks (but see below *) )

As you can see from the output of your mount command the only physical device that is mounted is* /dev/sr0* (the DVD device), but no* /dev/sd** ones.

Your fdisk output shows two disks with a very similar (but not exact the same) partitioning. All primary and logical partitions are typed for MS fs types usage.
Only the second disk has a partition marked for boot.

*) While the live system will not use the local disks by itself, you have a Linux system running and thus, as root, have access to all the device special files representing those disks and their partitions. Thus you can write to them from the system. But as long as you do not use root that is impossible. And when you are root (and do not restrict yourself to the tasks you wanted to do as root) you can mount and thus use the file systeems on those partitions as such. You can also use more potentialy destructive commands (like partitioning tools as fstab and everything that writes, dd not excluded).

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It is a live DVD
But DD is correct. What you have is a promo DVD which includes the ability to boot Live CD images

Can you check where ‘bootmgr’ is
is it on the first partition or the main windows OS

I ask because the first partition might be the boot partition, I say might. I see the boot flag is on the main windows partition. If ‘bootmgr’ is on the first partition, then you need to move the boot flag to it.

Parted Magic will let you do that
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10573557/bootflag%20-%20labels.mpeg
Ignore the labels part of the video

You should be able the read the contents of the partitions with either openSUSE or Parted Magic

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On 12/25/2011 05:56 PM, John Paul wrote:
>
> Secondly, it’s a DVD, not a CD.
> I received it at an opensuse 12.1 launch party. On the back of the
> sleeve it says: -This DVD includes everything you need to get your
> desktop, laptop or server up and running with linux. You can also take
> 12.1 for a test drive before you install it.

wow!! cool…i didn’t know such a thing existed…i’ve never seen one
nor seen where we could download such…

> Here’s the suggested output:

and, i’m happy i went ahead and asked for it, because two of the known
real gurus have come to your aid (well, i think Henk knows as much as
i do about Windows [not much]…but CAF seems to know most
everything…listen to him…and good luck)

–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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Well it is a promo DVD, I do not know if it is usefull ti try to promote openSUSE to you rotfl!

But as a compromise I can part of an 11.4 version of it. Just to cure your curiosity. It is realy a wonderfull thing and has a 32-bit and a 64-bit side (like vinyl).

If you promise to be a nice guy on the Forums for 2012 and PM me a postal address … Who knows, maybe you have it before the end of the year :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’m sorry, but I don’t see any instructions for locating bootmgr in that video. Am I correct that the video has no sound?

The DVD is very cool indeed.

@ hcvv, I was at the Dutch release party, too! Ik ben Pieter en had een paarse trui aan, maar ik helaas niet gehoord hoe iedereen heette. Hoe zag jij eruit? (ik gebruik mn eigen naam hier niet, omdat ik op internet graag mn privacy bescherm)

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Ik weet zelfs niet meer wat voor trui ik aanhad lol!

Maar ik draag een bril en een korte baard (er was geloof ik verder niemand met een baard). Ik zat midden voor.

En ik heb pizza gegeten rotfl!

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No sound
The video isn’t for locating ‘bootmgr’

Let’s just clarify something. Because it appears you have 2 HD’s
OR something I don’t understand
But your post #6 sure looks like 2 HD’s in the fdisk output http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/470235-windows-7-wont-boot-after-using-live-dvd.html#post2422334

Only thing is the partitions all look almost identical

Back to the video: That was showing you how to switch the boot flag, should you find ‘bootmgr’ is not on the partition currently marked * as boot.

Using the Live CD of openSUSE, can you examine the various partitions and see which has ‘bootmgr’

For the moment I’d really like some clarification on the HD or HD’s!?
If it’s definitely just one HD, then it has some odd setup I never did see before

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On 12/25/2011 08:56 PM, caf4926 wrote:
>
> For the moment I’d really like some clarification on the HD or HD’s!?
> If it’s definitely just one HD, then it has some odd setup I never did
> see before

me too…i guess maybe it is a RAID of some sort, and if so i have
zero idea how to proceed…we may need a win/raid guru… ??

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openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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But we can confirm
A live CD does NOT alter the installed system.

However, what your forced shutdown did I have no idea

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On 12/25/2011 07:56 PM, hcvv wrote:
>
> Well it is a promo DVD, I do not know if it is usefull ti try to
> promote openSUSE to you rotfl!

yes, gimme some high pressure sales …

> But as a compromise I can part of an 11.4 version of it. Just to cure
> your curiosity. It is realy a wonderfull thing and has a 32-bit and a
> 64-bit side (like vinyl).

oh! i have some from the 9.x series like that, came packaged with Linux
Mag (or Linux Format)…they are cool

> If you promise to be a nice guy on the Forums for 2012

i can’t make promises like that :wink:

anyway, i always am as good as i can be, given the circumstances
presented and the attitude of the opposing poster.

> and PM me a postal address … Who knows, maybe you have it before the
end of the
> year :stuck_out_tongue:

thanks for the offer, really…it is kind and generous of you…but, i
don’t think i would ever use it

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DD
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