will Opensuse 11.4 have pulseaudio? - hopefully not...

Hi,

I have a short question to all these beta and release candidate testers: will Opensuse 11.4 with KDE have pulseaudio?

I am asking this because I think that I have read something like this in some news, but I can not remember where I read it…

I, as one of these guys who know pulseaudio as a bad troublemaker, hope that it is not in 11.4 KDE…

regards
Steffen

pulse audio is enalbed by default in 11.4, though i have uninstalled/disabled it, and sound is working fine…

11.4 KDE installs PulseAudio, and it is enabled here. So far it is working well…

On 03/09/2011 04:36 AM, steffen13 wrote:
> I have a short question to all these beta and release candidate
> testers: will Opensuse 11.4 with KDE have pulseaudio?

you always have the option during install to mark it to NOT install…
(which is what i did when i installed 11.3)


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to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

as one who fought with pulseaudio (it beat me) in 11.0, i was glad that it was no longer a part of the default install for KDE desktop in 11.2. So from this thread i’m assuming that has changed back, which causes some trepidation.

pulseaudio removal required some digging for information to remove and revert to only alsa again. There are some alsa drivers that simply do not work well with pulseaudio’s time-slice method of handling the audio stream, resulting in choppy sound.

hopefully someone has made sure this is not the case anymore.

@j_xavier

The signs are much better now, but approach with caution. Your optimism should give PulseAudio a second chance and carry you forward. I definitely haven’t experienced choppy sound - far from it! 11.4 sound is very good [on my hardware]. Although I’m not totally sure what Amarok is doing re the phonon backend and its volume levels.

I found it to be one of the first things to turn off. Did not work too well as I had choppy audio across the board.

I tought it is only part of Gnome.
Does that mean it is also installed with KDE? Just wondering.

Yes it is installed with KDE

I can’t believe you read the thread you just joined. If you had, you wouldn’t need to ask that question. :slight_smile:

On Wednesday 09 Mar 2011 04:36, consused scribbled:

>
> 11.4 KDE installs PulseAudio, and it is enabled here. So far it is
> working well…
>

Working better, yes, but I don’t understand why the mixer controls are the
old version when logged on as “root” but are the new version for any other
user. As settings made for one user have a global effect, a problem on the
default channel settings for “root” can impact all other users.

Also getting temporary 100% cpu lockups in Firefox 4b12 with PulseAudio
installed but not otherwise. Problem appears Flash-related but possible
problem sites are only video, not sound, so I’m puzzled.


Graham Davis, Bracknell, UK.

Hi,

I have found the inclusion of PulseAudio in openSUSE-11.4 to be a positive. In do admit to switching the Phonon backend from GStreamer to Xine and installing the Packman libxine1-codecs to permit MP3 playback in Amarok.

The biggest gain, for me personally, is the ability to assign recording and playback streams (using pavucontrol) on a per. application basis. I can now use speakers for general desktop work but when I start Audacity it switches to headset for recording and playback, which is really neat.

For those who do not already know, in YaST under Sound|Other|PulseAudio Configuration… there is a checkbox to disable PulseAudio.

Regards,
Neil Darlow

I never log in as root. I believe it is not recommended for security (nothing to do with P/A).

On Thursday 10 Mar 2011 17:06, consused scribbled:

>
> Cloddy;2300913 Wrote:
>>
>> Working better, yes, but I don’t understand why the mixer controls are
>> the
>> old version when logged on as “root” but are the new version for any
>> other
>> user.
> I never log in as root. I believe it is not recommended for security
> (nothing to do with P/A).
>

Yes, I’ve heard a lot of that but as I had the responsibility of doing the
equivalent of that on various systems for nearly thirty years I think I’ll
carry on - but very carefully of course. I find it a convenient way to carry
out admin and certainly less dangerous than using a file manager in super-
user mode!

In any case, it might be the only way to get PulseAudio working on some
systems is to logon as “root” and set the mixer controls there. After doing
that, one could leave “root” alone for evermore if one preferred not to
touch it.

Anyway, I’ll be installing two clean versions of 11.4, one with PA and one
without, and trying again to study the behaviour of the freezes in Firefox
in order to make a useful bug report.


Graham Davis, Bracknell, UK.

Hi
Normally you just run YaST and check to sound card there under ‘other’
and test the sound and set the volume controls.

Have it installed on x86 and x86_64 and have no issues with audio?

There is a plethora of tools to start applications as you user and run
as root :wink:


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What do you mean by “might be”? If you haven’t got concrete evidence that it is necessary, why muddy the waters?

oopsydaisy rotfl!

Yes. I have installed in my laptop and it has with KDE.

I believe he’s got it. :smiley:

Yes it is there, and it is horribly broken and makes a mess of things just like it always did in previous versions when using KDE. I am helping a user in skype right now to straighten out the mess that pulse made of his sound system. Audio in skype won’t work, audio in MythtV won’t work…

Remove the **** that pulseaudio is in yast, in desktop congurations multimdeida, switch from gstreamer to xine engine.

Someone should just drop a bomb on Pulsecrapio and never look back