Why there are no openSUSE 42.1 Live images?

Hello everyone.

I was about to download openSUSE 42.1, where I discovered that there are no Live images of it (Just Tumbleweed images exist, but not the Leap version). There is only a DVD version (4.5GB) and a Net version (80MB) and both of them don’t suit me because of my slow internet here (You know, it’s middle east).

So my question is: Why there are no live images for the 42.1 version like in the older versions?
This really stopped me from downloading the new version.

I can’t explain the decision to not provide live images. But then I’m only a user.

There are some unofficial live images:

Li-f-e (linux for education) isos
The live image for 42.1 is 3.7G, which might be bigger than you want.

GeckoLinux
Those were built on SUSE Studio. I’ve tried one of them (the budgie desktop), and it seemed well prepared. You could probably build your own on SUSE Studio.

Well, I can’t guarantee the safety of the unofficial ones, therefore waiting for some openSUSE developers to explain us why they don’t provide it theirselves.

On Tue, 03 May 2016 13:46:01 +0000, mhsabbagh wrote:

> Well, I can’t guarantee the safety of the unofficial ones, therefore
> waiting for some openSUSE developers to explain us why they don’t
> provide it theirselves.

Li-f-e is unofficial, but it’s a very well known derived distribution.

I don’t know myself why there aren’t any official images - perhaps
because anyone can build their own in SUSE Studio, because everyone has
their own needs for a live image, and there’s a constant debate about
what should or shouldn’t be included. Studio lets the user pick what
they want to have included in a live image, so there’s never any need to
debate about what was or wasn’t included.

Jim

Jim Henderson
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Well I had to try the Li-F-E version, but it was very slow on my PC because my USB flash was 4GB, and my RAM was also 4GB, so choosing KDE interface by default was a bad choice for me with Li-F-E version.

I really struggled to download 42.1, I had to download 13.2 Live GNOME and update it later to 42.1, everything worked smoothly this time, but I wasted a lot of time to do something that should have been a lot easier, and I hope openSUSE developers can consider it in the future: A Live system, like everyone.

Thanks! Going to be a lizard now lol!

On Mon, 09 May 2016 17:06:01 +0000, mhsabbagh wrote:

> Well I had to try the Li-F-E version, but it was very slow on my PC
> because my USB flash was 4GB, and my RAM was also 4GB, so choosing KDE
> interface by default was a bad choice for me with Li-F-E version.
>
> I really struggled to download 42.1, I had to download 13.2 Live GNOME
> and update it later to 42.1, everything worked smoothly this time, but I
> wasted a lot of time to do something that should have been a lot easier,
> and I hope openSUSE developers can consider it in the future: A Live
> system, like everyone.
>
> Thanks! Going to be a lizard now lol!

Another option if you want live media is to use SUSE Studio to roll your
own. I use that myself for various things (generally VM images). It’s
easy to use and you can get exactly what you want on your live media.
Updates are easy as well - just rebuild the image. :slight_smile:

Jim


Jim Henderson
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Looks like many, many LiveCDs have been created by various people for all sorts of reasons with different package combinations

https://susestudio.com/search/page/2?q=42.1+live

Recommend the above search, but add more search terms to narrow down what you’d want to have included… eg
Desktop
Any special apps or use

TSU

The problem my friends is: time, I need to have a Novell account in order to create / download a live system from Suse Studio, and I need to have some basic knowledge in order to get the things I want together in the live system, then I need to run it on testdrive to see if it boots or not… All of this effort could be saved by providing an official live images from openSUSE, like all other distributions such as Fedora or Ubuntu or Debian…

Yes, it’s very possible to create it via SUSE Studio or download already existing re-spins, but time and security are the problems here.

Greetings.

I’m pretty sure that the account you use to login to this forum would work.

Beyond that, note that the Leap series was a new venture. The people preparing and testing it were faced with similar issues. Maybe they will produce live systems for 42.2. I don’t know if they will. but I would like to see a live rescue CD image.

However, I am pretty sure that they won’t go back and prepare them for 42.1. For that, you will have to rely on SuSE Studio or on the images already available.

On Thu, 12 May 2016 06:46:01 +0000, mhsabbagh wrote:

> I need to have a Novell account in order
> to create / download a live system from Suse Studio,

That would be the account you logged into here.

> and I need to have
> some basic knowledge in order to get the things I want together in the
> live system

As you say, it’s basic knowledge.

Invariably, no matter what the project does, someone complains. The
images include the wrong software - or include too much software - or
don’t include enough software. Or use the wrong desktop. Or use the
wrong version of the desktop. Or are outdated (because the images are
built statically and never receive any needed security updates).

SUSE Studio gets around all of those issues.

It’s not a difficult tool to use - check it out and give it a try. There
are plenty of people who can help you get exactly what you’re looking for
out of it.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

I was just looking over the information I could dig up about this Geckolinux, only to discover that the creator/developer is going to extensive effort to hide his/her identity.

That does not instil confidence, IMHO, so – though my initial intent was to download and run it through tests – I am personally going to ignore Geckolinux for now.>:(

On Sat 21 May 2016 05:26:01 AM CDT, Fraser Bell wrote:

mhsabbagh;2777265 Wrote:
> Well, I can’t guarantee the safety of the unofficial ones, therefore
> waiting for some openSUSE developers to explain us why they don’t
> provide it theirselves.

I was just looking over the information I could dig up about this
Geckolinux, only to discover that the creator/developer is going to
extensive effort to hide his/her identity.

That does not instil confidence, IMHO, so – though my initial intent
was to download and run it through tests – I am personally going to
ignore Geckolinux for now.>:(

Hi
According to SUSE Studio it’s forum user sb56637 perhaps send them a PM?


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Thanks, Malcolm. Will consider it.:wink: