Why openSUSE Linux does not support the standard keyboard ABNT2 used in Brazil?

genixinfo · June 20, 2010, 5:32am

This is happening in version 11.2 of openSUSE Linux.

About ABNT2:

AltGr key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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hendersj · June 20, 2010, 7:06am

Moved from the “Looking For” forum. Quoting so NNTP users see the original question.

hendersj · June 20, 2010, 7:12am

You don’t mention if you’re using GNOME or KDE; in GNOME, if you go into the control center and select “Keyboard”, then select the layouts tab, click “Add” and search by country, the first selection under Brazil seems to match the ABNT2 layout.

Jim

DenverD · June 20, 2010, 7:09am

genixinfo wrote:
> Why openSUSE Linux does not support the standard keyboard ABNT2 used in
> Brazil?

i hope someone with a more specific answer/solution can help you!

maybe the install script did not correctly identify your keyboard,
have you opened YaST > Hardware > Keyboard & Layout and check which
Layout is selected?

in my openSUSE i can’t select ABNT2, but i can pick Brazil, is that
not the same?

perhaps openSUSE needs a programmer/developer to step up and add ABNT2
if it is different from the Brazil layout…

genixinfo · June 20, 2010, 7:39am

I am using KDE 4.3 default, openSUSE Linux 11.2.

Has no option for ABNT2 or the installation of openSUSE Linux 11.2 which I selected the option to Brazil, and not after it’s installed on the HD, already installed with the option to Brazil, ABNT2 not have the option in System Settings > Regional and Language.

hendersj · June 20, 2010, 7:49am

On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 05:46:01 +0000, genixinfo wrote:

> I am using KDE 4.3 default, openSUSE Linux 11.2.
>
>
> Has no option for ABNT2 or the installation of openSUSE Linux 11.2 which
> I selected the option to Brazil, and not after it’s installed on the HD,
> already installed with the option to Brazil, ABNT2 not have the option
> in System Settings > Regional and Language.

Try looking under the keyboard settings in the hardware setup in YaST. I
don’t use KDE myself, but from DenverD’s message that seems to be the
place to look.

Jim

–
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

genixinfo · June 20, 2010, 8:51am

hendersj,

I did like the DenverD talked, the more I can not even find the option ABNT2, the most I found was the option already selected: Portuguese (Brazil), I could not select the option: Adapting to Map Keyboard Portuguese (Brazil).

brunomcl · June 20, 2010, 9:27am

I’m running oS 11.2/KDE4.3.5 in a laptop with ABNT2 kbd. All special keys (ç, ã, etc.) work OK.

The kbd is detected by the hwinfo utility as "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard (/dev/input/event0)

grep /var/log/Xorg.0.log | keyboard

yelds:

(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: always reports core events
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event0"
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Found keys
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) 2.4GHz 2way RF Receiver: Configuring as keyboard
(II) Sleep Button: Configuring as keyboard
(II) Power Button: Configuring as keyboard
(II) Video Bus: Configuring as keyboard
(II) Power Button: Configuring as keyboard

And

grep /var/log/Xorg.0.log | kxb

:

(II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/compiled/server-B20D7FC79C7F597315E3E501AEF10E0D866E8E92.xkm
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "abnt2"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "br"
(**) Option "xkb_options" "inet:microsoftprousb"
(II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/compiled/server-D520D1DF9CEBEF2EEE3B6C1AFE933094A1DE60E9.xkm
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "abnt2"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "br"
(**) Option "xkb_options" "inet:microsoftprousb"
(II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/compiled/server-D520D1DF9CEBEF2EEE3B6C1AFE933094A1DE60E9.xkm
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "abnt2"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "br"
(**) Option "xkb_options" "inet:microsoftprousb"
(II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/compiled/server-D520D1DF9CEBEF2EEE3B6C1AFE933094A1DE60E9.xkm
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "abnt2"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "br"
(**) Option "xkb_options" "inet:microsoftprousb"
(II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/compiled/server-D520D1DF9CEBEF2EEE3B6C1AFE933094A1DE60E9.xkm
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "abnt2"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "br"
(**) Option "xkb_options" "inet:microsoftprousb"
(II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/compiled/server-D520D1DF9CEBEF2EEE3B6C1AFE933094A1DE60E9.xkm
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "abnt2"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "br"
(**) Option "xkb_options" "inet:microsoftprousb"
(II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/compiled/server-D520D1DF9CEBEF2EEE3B6C1AFE933094A1DE60E9.xkm

So it seems the system correctly recognizes and support ABNT2 kbds.

There is no keyboard type configuration option in Yast>Hardware or System Settings>Mouse and Keyboard anymore, however. You could try to enable kbd layout in System Settings>Region and Idiom (região e idioma), and choose Brasil (the map name is br).

Something else to try is, at the boot screen, press F4 (Keyboard) and choose Portuguese (Brasil) if it’s not already set.

Also check if you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you have one try running without it (rename it to something else) or see what it defines for the keyboard.

That’s all I can think of right now.

Boa sorte, não deve ser nada complicado de resolver.

DenverD · June 20, 2010, 9:28am

genixinfo wrote:
> I can not even find the option
> ABNT2, the most I found was the option already selected: Portuguese
> (Brazil), I could not select the option: Adapting to Map Keyboard
> Portuguese (Brazil).

maybe a Linux User Group in Brazil could be more helpful, maybe…see
if there is one with a better idea:

http://www.linux.org/groups/brazil.html

and, if (for example) openSUSE does not offer an ABNT2 keymap but
Linux (in general) does then PLEASE put a note in FATE requesting it
be added to openSUSE, see http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate

brunomcl · June 21, 2010, 12:27am

It does, at least since oS 10.0.

genixinfo · June 21, 2010, 1:14am

hendersj,

My KDE is 4.3.1, packages are the standard already has Linux in openSUSE 11.2.

brunomcl,

Here deses not run any commands.

DenverD,

Do not need it, for the openSUSE Linux 11.2, supports ABNT2, I’ve figured out what is happening here.

In the installation of openSUSE Linux appears the Portuguese language of Brazil Eoo keyboard appears as: Brazilian Portuguese, when in fact it is certain appear: Brazilian ABNT2 more woe after that, I researched a lot about it, until I found this command: rckbd check, used to check which keymap is being used, I used this command, and that was aa output:

Keymap /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/br-abnt2.map.gz is loaded.

That means that openSUSE Linux supports keyboard ABNT2, and he is active.

The problem then is not the layout because the layout is right, ABNT2 is the same, my problem now is with respect to special characters and symbols on the keyboard (ª º º ° etc …).

I’ve seen these links:

Keyboard Configuration - openSUSE

AltGr key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And that last link was the closest I’ve been wanting:

Viva o Linux

Comment from user: vfs

The very purpose of this lightweight paper. Only come to do a sum, achieved on the basis of trial and error. I have 3 laptops, of which only one has the keyboard ABNT2 native (sweet !!!), one is US-INTL and the other is a monster of two heads, mixed with ABNT2 US-INTL (Amazon 104, which took the odd Linux to run Ubuntu from the factory) in which to do the sign “/” you have to press the keys “AltGr + W” (imagine my joy when using the console …).

Well, as I do many legal documents, in which I mention the articles and paragraphs, here goes the tip of how you produce them (the combination):

AltGr + Shift + F = st
AltGr + \ = º
AltGr + Shift + S = §
AltGr + Shift +, = º

This keyboard US-INTL. In ABNT2, as I said, is soft, it just press AltGr key and 3. No corresponding level.

I would do this: instead of using shortcuts I combined, I just use the normal keys for the keys: (ª º º ° etc …)?

DenverD · June 21, 2010, 8:00am

genixinfo wrote:
> There was a possibility of instead I use shortcuts combined, I just use
> the keys rules for the keys: (ª º º ° etc …)?

sure, you can set the shortcuts to be whatever you want…but, i’ve
never messed with mine so i can’t tell you how to do it…but, i
think the first step is to find your Personal Settings Configure
Desktop, then go something like: Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard
Shortcuts

but i highly suggest you be careful, change one thing at a time, and
test with a clear understanding of how to undo what you just did
before moving on…

otherwise you might end with an unusable keyboard…

but remember, this is a multi-user system…which means you can (for
example) add a new user, log out of your account and into the new one
and do all the changing and testing in that users environment…and,
if you kill the shortcuts for that Test user you can just delete him
and start over…but when you KNOW what you have done works you can
log back into your account and set it with relative safety…

genixinfo · June 21, 2010, 8:59pm

DenverD,

You’re right, but I’ll leave anyway, I’ll use the same pain of shortcuts, because it is safer.

Thank you!

DenverD · June 21, 2010, 10:33pm

genixinfo wrote:
> You’re right, but I’ll leave anyway, I’ll use the same pain of
> shortcuts, because it is safer.

ok…but, it ought to be easy…think about making an entry in
FATE…or a bug in bugzilla…but, do check with other Linux
users…it should be easy…

genixinfo · July 17, 2010, 10:39pm

Registered at openFATE: https://features.opensuse.org/310153