Why is YaST for GNOME different?

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#1

I read this review:
openSUSE 11.0 - Smooth Outside and Rough Inside | TechReview.uni.cc

I sharply criticized it. However I understood later why he had such a bad experience with the package management: the YaST interface is totally different in GNOME. That especially affects Software Management, which has an ugly, highly ineffective interface.
Why this difference between GNOME and the other window managers and desktop environments?

I mean, I am not a GNOME user, but if I were I’d be rather disappointed.

#2

It follows the GNOME philosophy - too many buttons confuses the user!

#3

You can ask for the KDE interface even under GNOME, there is an option for that. I forget it as I don’t run GNOME, but this was mentioned in the release notes. And v.v., the GNOME interface under KDE.

#4

It would be interesting to know how to do that, so I could explain it to GNOME users.

#5

If you have gt packages installed (which you do if you have KDE) you can ’ tell’ yast to start in the qt environment.

Try this:


su - (entering root pw)
yast2 --qt sw_single &
#6

On 07/02/2008 Sergio1704 wrote:
> It would be interesting to know how to do that, so I could explain it
> to GNOME users.

Yast, System, /etc/sysconfig Editor:
System, Yast2, GUI
WANTED_GUI and WANTED_SHELL need to be set to “qt”

HTH
Uwe

#7

Thanks :slight_smile: I am going to try it.
Edit: yes it works.

#8

Thanks. It didn’t change the main GUI, but it changed each module.

#9

On 07/02/2008 Sergio1704 wrote:
> Thanks. It didn’t change the main GUI, but it changed each module.

It’s supposed to do though. Did you restart Yast?

Uwe

#10

Yes, I did.

#11

I find the gtk gui to work fine.
IMO the QT version is too cluttered.

#12

On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:06:04 +0000, some-guy wrote:

> I find the gtk gui to work fine.
> IMO the QT version is too cluttered.

I would concur. I like the simplicity of the gtk interface over the qt
interface.

Jim

#13

On 07/02/2008 Sergio1704 wrote:
> Yes, I did.

Hm. Is the current behavior okay for you? If not, I’d check myself.

Uwe

#14

Oh yes, the GTK version is such bliss - it lacks such useless buttons as Select All + “Upgrade if newer available”, which completely cripples you if you have packages that change vendor and zypper dup / -t package won’t pick them up because of it.

Oh yes we’re no stranger to that problem here in the VM test land.

#15

Well, I use KDE, thus it is not a problem for me. As I wrote in my first post, everything began from a negative review which found me in total disagreement, of course. However I could at least understand why the reviewer’s package management experience was negative, because in GNOME the Software Management default interface is totally different and, IMHO, not very effective.
Also I still don’t understand why this thread ended up among countless rants. It wasn’t meant as a rant at all, more as a mere statement of facts and perhaps I wanted to get some info, which I did.

#16

I agree on this as this will be a question many others will be asking… don’t know who moved it but +1 to move it back to where it came from.