Why does everyone use Ubuntu?

I did try and use it but it I just naturally didn’t like it.

When I first used opensuse “Wow!” I loved it!

Explanations people… Apart from its great community, I do find answers there sometimes.

I’m a fan of GNOME as well.

I love opensuses package manager, its organization, its ease of use (1 click installs), its neat and tidiness, the computer menu and its jam packed with stuff.

When I see this huge mass of people voting for Ubuntu, I really wonder… am I missing something here?

I think Ubuntu is trying hard to be, and to sell itself as, a Windows clone for people who think Bill Gates has too much money. While OpenSuSE and most other Linux distros are at least partly about being a better OS.

Ubuntu has great support and community, though the same can be said for Suse of course. I’m not sure that everyone does use it, I don’t. It is certainly a starting point for many moving from Windows and I guess if it works (which it has to be said - it does), the tendency will be for users to stick with it.

I’m not so keen on OneClick Installs, it’s all to reminiscent of Windows, but I accept it as part of the move to make migration easier for new users. Experienced users are most unlikely to use this method.

KDE is important to me and so Suse is a natural choice. And, not that it has anything to do with anything, but Suse just feels all warm and friendly.

I actually Like Ubuntu it runs great no real problems well except it doesn’t let me have 4 gb ram and the fglrx video drivers at the same time. I thin k it is a perfect OS if your coming from a windows OS and what to go to Linux thats how I have done it so far I went from xp tried vista didn’t like it at all because of its resource hogging, went to server2003 ( trimmed down to a xp like os) that is actually my fav OS… then I wanted to try Linux so I tried Ubuntu because of the simularities of windows , got really brave and wnt to Arch which is also a great OS if you really want to learn ,but with Arch I couldn’t ghet the fglrx drivers to install properly so back to Ubuntu ran into the 4 gb ram and the fglrx video drivers at the same time problem ( was told it could be something to do with my Gigabyte Motherboard but who knows)now I am with Opensuse which does impress me allot I am just having growing pains with it because it is more of a true Linux then Ubuntu.

Hi
I use it because there was a sparc version and “shipit” :slight_smile:

That being said, maybe it’s because they do have “shipit”. There have
been a few people here that either have data caps, dialup or little to
no internet access. They download the DVD only get a bad md5sum or
incorrect burn and are unwilling to try again…


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I dispise Ubuntu. However my favorite OS so far is Debian. It was the OS I learned on. It’s more of a true linux without the Windows appeal. RedHat/Fedora is nice too. However I am fairly impressed with SuSe11. Just havn’t use it enough to formulate an acurate judgement.

I don’t see any problem with Ubuntu. It’s very noob friendly- it’s what I recommend people to go to if they’re not too comfortable around the computer.

If you’re more willing to learn, OpenSuse IMO. If you want to spend a year in terminal, Gentoo :slight_smile:

/not that I really know anything about anything, I’ve only been using Linux for a few months :open_mouth:

richyf89 wrote:
> I did try and use it but it I just naturally didn’t like it.
>
> When I first used opensuse “Wow!” I loved it!
>
> Explanations people… Apart from its great community, I do find answers
> there sometimes.
>
> I’m a fan of GNOME as well.
>
> I love opensuses package manager, its organization, its ease of use (1
> click installs), its neat and tidiness, the computer menu and its jam
> packed with stuff.
>
> When I see this huge mass of people voting for Ubuntu, I really
> wonder… am I missing something here?
>
>
Hype, there was a time about 2-3 years ago when it got hyped up a lot
throughout the linux community. At the same time openSUSE took a hit
because of the Novell-Microsoft deal and Fedora had a few quality
issues. Just my opinion.

No, they just don’t want the same things as you do.

I’m a member of “everyone” and I don’t use Ubuntu. Therefore, your
question does not reflect reality. :wink:

Jim

Actually today i was wondering the same! Why? It seems to me like canonical is spending a great effort in public relations. Is Ubuntu so easy for the newbie? I don’t think so. The lack of a control center like yast or mamdriva’s one makes me think that is not so easy. Well it is possible to install software so easy. But it is the same like any other debian based distro. But if i want to set up a file server is it better yast or editing the configuration files? Actually i have to tell you guys that at the times of suse 7.3 yast was the deciding factor to make me switch to suse. And again Ubuntu is missing something like that.

> When I see this huge mass of people voting for Ubuntu, I really
> wonder… am I missing something here?

Well while we are on the subject of opinions…
I think it’s the freedom that Ubuntu promises.

'Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge. You do not pay any licensing
fees. You can download, use and share Ubuntu with your friends, family,
school or business for absolutely nothing.

What does Ubuntu mean?

Ubuntu is an African word meaning ‘Humanity to others’, or ‘I am what I am
because of who we all are’. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of
Ubuntu to the software world.’

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu

So it plays on social responsibility and it also has shipped on a number of
hardware platforms.

I’ve tried it a few times myself, but using GNOME as its default is a game
killer for me as the KDE variant is usually lacking. I’m also not buying
into their update model.

Very funny Jim :wink:

I can’t rephrase the question, but you know what I mean. xD

Well, not everyone uses Ubuntu, some of us know better. They do have a lot of market share, partly due to publicity and targeting Windows deserters, and they do have ease of version upgrade, something that’s just made it into zypper.

Honestly in some cases if I were setting somebody up with a no-cost Internet browsing computer, I would seriously consider K/ubuntu because it would be easier for them to get someone else to give them help if I am not around, and it would be easy for them to upgrade.

Why would you want everybody to use one distro anyway? Horses for courses. Otherwise we’re back to the one size fits all dumbed down Windows. If Ubuntu didn’t exist it would have to be invented. Before Ubuntu, RH was the market leader in the distro field, simply because of first mover advantage.

Anyway it’s all Linux under the skin and once you have learnt one, you have learnt 90% of all the other distros.

I have no problem with Ubuntu. Nothing against Ubuntu. :slight_smile:

I’m just wondering why its off the charts that all. Feels like a very over hyped distro.

I’m downloading the latest version now, I’m going to install it on a spare computer give it some intense use and see what the hype is about :wink:

When I was using opensuse 10.3 it didn’t have my WLAN card drivers so I had to use the windows driver with ndiswrapper. After we all requested it, to my surprise, they had it working in Opensuse 11. So I think the developers really do take in what the community is asking for here and I like that.

However for Ubuntu, if I want to use the Internet I’m still going to have to use ndiswrapper and the windows driver :stuck_out_tongue:

I know Ubuntu promises to always be free of charge… but I don’t think Novell are going to ever charge for their opensuse linux, please don’t scare me. Someone confirm that they will never do this!!! :’(

Thanks for the input everyone. Its really interesting to hear your opinions.

Why would they do an insane thing like that?

  1. Everybody gets mad at them and they lose their loyal developer and user base.

  2. As it’s Open Source, somebody will promptly fork the distro and carry on.

  3. And anyway OpenSUSE has been properly set up as a community distro.

Hah! :smiley: well crazy things have happened in past! No matter how unlikely, there is always a possibility. Unless you have a sealed promise :wink:

I think the Novell deal with Microsoft was a tad insane and lost a portion of their user base… but maybe it has some advantages.

I think the biggest reason for Ubuntu’s success is its shipit stuff. Asia, Africa and South America have huge growing computer users and they prefer Ubuntu over other distros 'cos of this shipit thing. This pic says it all: Image:2005broadband subscribers.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  • richyf89 wrote, On 09/25/2008 09:06 PM:
    > I did try and use it but it I just naturally didn’t like it.
    >
    > When I first used opensuse “Wow!” I loved it!

Hey, your question was why people use Ubuntu :slight_smile:

> Explanations people… Apart from its great community, I do find answers
> there sometimes.

Well, here in Germany, Ubuntu has an awesome German support forum with a gigantic user base. Though Suse originally was a German company, their staff stuck (and still sticks) to mailing lists for communication. You could get some good support via NNTP, but the German web based forums never took off. In short: The distro lost the connection to young users who use web forums almost exclusively.

> I love opensuses package manager, its organization, its ease of use (1
> click installs), its neat and tidiness, the computer menu and its jam
> packed with stuff.

Next important point: I think it was with 10.1 when Suse came with the ZMD package management disaster. Suse users were left with a software management tool which plain didn’t work. People ran away from Suse for a very good reason. Opensuse 11 has the potential to get back those users with Yast/zypper.
IMHO, but that’s just a theory, it was too early for KDE4: A lot of die-hard Gnome users were curious and tried the Opensuse 11 version of KDE4 and were disappointed, hence ran back to Ubuntu.

Uwe

The open source nature of the software is your best guarantee.