On 2012-01-10 07:06, caf4926 wrote:
>
> The posts are there on web side to, only not visible to you. The user
> has deleted a whole succession of his posts.
> It’s a complete mess
I’m even getting duplicates from DenverD! Ie, via nntp!
I’m pursued by duplicates :-}
On 01/10/2012 03:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I’m even getting duplicates from DenverD! Ie, via nntp!
i saw that big bunch of dups too…but, if you see duplicates from me
in that applications thread “Drag and drop files to thunderbird in kde”
you may have a client problem…i say that since i only see one there
from me (and apparently Carl also)… so ?
> I’m pursued by duplicates :-}
hmmmmmm…just thinking out loud: maybe you are going online and
downloading a bunch then going offline (or staying online but the nntp
connection times out)…and, then the next time you go online (or click
to check for new post) your client has not updated its db correctly and
re-downloads a message again, and again, and again…
i’ve not tried to solve that in years, you might need to join a client
specific forum (hmmmm…do i recall correctly that you use TBird? they
have a huge online “knowledge base” there might be an easy way to
rebuild the db or . . .
DenverD wrote:
> On 01/10/2012 03:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> I’m even getting duplicates from DenverD! Ie, via nntp!
>
> i saw that big bunch of dups too
FWIW, I saw the original bunch of six dups, though they’re now all
different. I haven’t noticed any others. But this morning, I’m seeing a
lot of status errors from TBird when I browse messages. If I then move
to another message and back, the message appears as normal. So I think
there’s something strange with the server or connection (I haven’t
changed the client).
On 01/10/2012 01:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> There are more cases
so, just ran into one in ‘hardware’ “CUPS Printing Failure in 12.1”,
below are both nntp headers (as seen in TBird), each line with
differences are marked with a beginning * and than another * just prior
to the difference…
On 01/11/2012 01:21 PM, DenverD wrote:
> i believe this points to either a ‘gateway’ or nntp server problem…
actually, on second thought it can’t be a nntp server problem because it
must be happening wherever the tag lines and thread numbers are being
generated
thread.php?t=470995
thread.php?t=470996
which i guess has to be prior to a nntp server receiving the messages…
so, it is either the ‘gateway’ or vBulletin itself…hmmmm, i guess now
(after noticing “User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway” in the header)
that the gateway is a part of vBulletin…and, i guesd in there
somewhere is a bug crawling around.
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!
On 01/11/2012 05:46 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> No, if it shows two different threads, then the message was posted twice
> on the web side.
hmmmm, but then why is it not seen twice on the web side???
and, where lies Carlos’ post [Message-ID:
<h7uut8-ufv.ln1@Telcontar.valinor] except on the nntp side?
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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!
On 2012-01-11 17:46, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:21:19 +0000, DenverD wrote:
>
>> the message bodies are identical, but the taglines are not, as two
>> different threads are noted:
>>
>> http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=470995
>> http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=470996
>>
>> i believe this points to either a ‘gateway’ or nntp server problem…
>
> No, if it shows two different threads, then the message was posted twice
> on the web side.
Yes, but no. You try the first link yourself. It yields:
Message
No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the
administrator
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 2012-01-10 07:06, caf4926 wrote:
>
> The posts are there on web side to, only not visible to you. The user
> has deleted a whole succession of his posts.
> It’s a complete mess
I see a duplicate of another message with one hour difference timestamp,
and different text.
View this thread: http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=471020
Post #15 I see twice, one dated 21:36 and another 22:26. The web only shows
the first one, much shorter.
This doesn’t make sense.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 01/12/2012 05:16 AM, caf4926 wrote:
> Just after your post, this is how it looks to me
> ‘SUSE Paste’ (http://paste.opensuse.org/89429571)
should forum users be able to delete post to the forum after they have a
reply?
or even before a reply?
imo, the answer to both is “No.” but i would accept the notion that tree
falling in the middle of the forest makes no sound if there is no one
there to hear it…so, a post ‘sent’ by never read or answered could
reasonably be sender deleted…but, once the “view count” climbs above
zero (or the gateway sweeps it to the other side) it is game over for
the committed post.
obviously, ymmv…
let me ask…can i go in and delete my post? an hour, day, week, year
later??
On 01/10/2012 01:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I’m seeing some posts that have one post on the web side appear several
> times in the nntp side.
has there been any action on this problem? i ask because i just now see
it on the nntp side as two (apparently–ie, i didn’t diff’em) identical
posts, ten minutes apart: