> I personally don’t find this to be the case: > they
>> simply dump every conceivable program that KDE offers into the menusThe
>> default install really only installs the basics in my opinion. At
> least, I install tons of stuff after or usually at install by
> modification.
Yes I can see that in some cases. I believe I made a post somewhere
else where I brought up the issue that there needs to be more desktop
selection possibilities at install time. For instance we alread select in
SuSE KDE/GNOME or Other. I think it would be nice after you select the
desktop that the next install screen present a classification of the
installation. SuSE default (for the desktop selected), Power User (this
could be the ‘shoebox give me everything’, and perhaps a Minimal (where the
user wants to pick and choose after the installation is done)
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> And of course kde4 was shipped with the understanding that if you need
> stability: ‘Install kde3’
Well part of what you are missing that I was called out on earlier was that
I specified KDE4, really the question should have been:
Why are distros shipping neutered KDE? I say neutered because the distros I
was working with did not have any distro level admin tools provided on the
KDE side. You have to use GNOME or you simply don’t get the tools.
> And now of course, most of us at least are really happy with kde4. And
> my ‘Unstable’ is whiz, bang, brilliant!
Yep. Mine too.
Being a KDE hound, I also would not call it neutered. I would just call it unfinished. There are no traffic jams on the extra mile. openSUSE seems to be the only distro that puts out that effort, and it shows. That spit and polish makes a big difference.
Repeat after me. “No one does KDE like openSUSE does KDE.”
one of the reason’s that I love openSuse is the love they put into KDE. I’ve tried distro’s where all the love goes into gnome, and KDE is left looking like it is slapped together as an after thought. But that has it’s positives, it brings me back to openSuse
> one of the reason’s that I love openSuse is the love they put into KDE.
> I’ve tried distro’s where all the love goes into gnome, and KDE is left
> looking like it is slapped together as an after thought. But that has
> it’s positives, it brings me back to openSuse
>
>
But is that changing? Novell made it known early on that it prefers GNOME
and even tried to axe KDE from the distro. Note that KDE doesn’t even
make the screenshot page for 11.1.
I think a look at 4.1.3 shows how much love Novell/OpenSuse are putting into KDE. I’m not sure how much work they are putting into 4.2, but 4.2 on OpenSuse is bloody amazing, it’s mind blowing how far it has come in such a short span of time.
There could be a number of reasons why there are no KDE screenshots on that page, which are screenshots of RC1, none of them are a lack of love, because the openSuse/Novell team do a heck of a lot of work on KDE, more so than most distro’s
> There could be a number of reasons why there are no KDE screenshots on
> that page, which are screenshots of RC1, none of them are a lack of
> love, because the openSuse/Novell team do a heck of a lot of work on
> KDE, more so than most distro’s
Novell prefers Gnome for SLED and SLES for desktop management reasons, but that doesn’t mean that openSUSE prefers GNOME. Do not confuse the two entities. They are not one and the same.
