I installed openSUSE 11.3 64 bit on my parent’s computer. After doing a reboot I found the package manager and it told me there were a bunch of updates available. I installed wine and mozilla-thunderbird as well as the updates. Then the software management program starts installing a ton of 32 bit packages. This is the first time I’ve used openSUSE aside from in a VM so I’m a little unfamiliar with it. I’m more familiar with Gentoo and Ubuntu.
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Because when you originally installed you left the 32-bit libraries
selected, which is probably good since a lot of software that is 32-bit
will run seamlessly on your 64-bit system as a result.
Good luck.
On 10/12/2010 10:36 AM, jordanwb wrote:
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> I installed openSUSE 11.3 64 bit on my parent’s computer. After doing a
> reboot I found the package manager and it told me there were a bunch of
> updates available. I installed wine and mozilla-thunderbird as well as
> the updates. Then the software management program starts installing a
> ton of 32 bit packages. This is the first time I’ve used openSUSE aside
> from in a VM so I’m a little unfamiliar with it. I’m more familiar with
> Gentoo and Ubuntu.
>
>
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I was not aware that a 64 bit OS would have 32 bit libraries installed. I do know that wine would pull in some 32 bit libraries but not 100.
Also I had installed a program via Wine. The screen went blank three times during the installation of the program, then the screen went blank twice during its startup. Also why is the screen resolution changed from 1440x900@60Hz to 1440x900@60Hz after gdm logs in my user? There is only one monitor and its resolution was correct to begin with. My parents were complaining about the screen resolution changes when their computer was running Ubuntu and this won’t help. Yast is a great tool and openSuse looks very polished, but these things are kinda deal breakers, and I was told openSuse was especially good at handling monitors.
Why is your post word wrapped every ~70 characters?
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64-bit OS’s do not need 32-bit libraries, but they’re there to make life
smooth for you.
Regarding the screen going blank during startup, I’m not sure what the
problem you’re describing is. Does the system fail to boot or does it
just go to a blank screen forever?
Also, regarding the screen, you mentioned you went from 1440x900@60Hz to
1440x900@60HZ, which is the same thing so… typo? That is the same
resolution I have on my laptop as chance would have it.
Screen resolution shouldn’t randomly change, so more information is needed
on what they’re doing at the time. You can change resolution if you want
to, or maybe your wine app is changing things, but normally it won’t
change unless you change it on purpose.
wine is another story. Knowing what program and if this happens on
another system may be useful. There are also probably wine-specific forums
online which may have more information for troubleshooting.
My posts wrap because I’m using an NNTP (vs. HTTP) client to access the
forums.
Good luck.
On 10/12/2010 11:36 AM, jordanwb wrote:
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> ab@novell.com;2237041 Wrote:
>> Because when you originally installed you left the 32-bit libraries
>> selected, which is probably good since a lot of software that is 32-bit
>> will run seamlessly on your 64-bit system as a result.
>>
>> Good luck.
>
> I was not aware that a 64 bit OS would have 32 bit libraries installed.
> I do know that wine would pull in some 32 bit libraries but not 100.
>
> Also I had installed a program via Wine. The screen went blank three
> times during the installation of the program, then the screen went blank
> twice during its startup. Also why is the screen resolution changed from
> 1440x900@60Hz to 1440x900@60Hz after gdm logs in my user? There is only
> one monitor and its resolution was correct to begin with. My parents
> were complaining about the screen resolution changes when their computer
> was running Ubuntu and this won’t help. Yast is a great tool and
> openSuse looks very polished, but these things are kinda deal breakers,
> and I was told openSuse was especially good at handling monitors.
>
> Why is your post word wrapped every ~70 characters?
>
>
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No, the system runs just fine, but when gdm starts, and my user is logged in, and gnome loads the screen goes blank for a second. It’s the same effect when you change the screen’s resolution.
No typo. In gnome, if you go to System->Preferences->Look & Feel->Monitors, the screen goes blank for a second that goes back to normal when the program loads.
I know they shouldn’t, but for some reason gnome thinks that xorg’s initial configuration (mirror on all screens, in this case there is only 1 screen) is different from what it should be and decides to change it even though I did not tell it to.
It is also happening on Ubuntu using Wine-1.2.42 so I suspect it’s a regression. I’ve reported it on launchpad. I tried a couple of different programs and the same thing happened. The screen went blank for a second then returned to normal
Interesting
On 2010-10-12 19:36, jordanwb wrote:
> Also why is the screen resolution changed from
> 1440x900@60Hz to 1440x900@60Hz after gdm logs in my user?
I don’t see a resolution change there. Either you wrote a typo, or it is not changing.
1440x900@60Hz == 1440x900@60Hz
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)
There are some unavoidable 32-bit binaries even on a 64-bit install. For example, the proprietary Adobe Flash player, which if installed will drag in a bunch of X libraries, and as is common with libraries, one library will depend on a whole bunch more, so you end up with quite a few to satisfy the dependencies completely.
Do for example:
ldd /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so
You will see that it requires lots of libraries found in /usr/lib, where 32-bit libraries go; 64-bit libraries go in /usr/lib64.
It might have been because of flash. I did see a package called “nspluginwrapper” or something similar and I know that’s a wrapper for 32 bit flash. I’m thinking of putting openSuse KDE on my laptop, it looks slick.
openSUSE is available for 64-bit platforms. This does not necessarily mean that all the applications included have already been ported to 64-bit platforms. openSUSE supports the use of 32-bit applications in a 64-bit system environment.
Windows64 does the same thing, and most 64bit OS’s will.
It is good you are familiar with Gentoo. Looking into the following, no-multilib vs multilib 
The same applies to all other linux distributions.
And as pointed out, Windows is the same.
One other thing, if it’s still bothering you: open a terminal window and do:
df -h
It will show you the disk usage of your system. The one marked “/” is the openSUSE install. Compare it’s size to a clean windu install…No worries about a couple of MBs for 32bit libs 