Hello
I know, i have recent hardware but :
- only Tumbleweed, Ubuntu, Linux Mint can be installed
- other not : Arch Linux, Manjaro, …
The question for me is : why ?
All distros that ca’nt be installed are working fine in VirtualBox.
What does ‘can’t be installed’ mean? Installation program won’t initialize? Installation aborts? Computer hangs? Installation media won’t boot?
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When I select a graphical installation, depending on the distro, I get the welcome screen, and that’s where it stops. No ‘Next’ button, no ‘Cancel’ button. Nothing.
When I select a text-based installation, I see loads of errors scrolling by and it eventually crashes.
I’ve realised that, after many attempts, it’s impossible to configure the graphics card, and that a lot of hardware hasn’t been detected (such as the network card, for example).
I wonder why some distributions recognise everything, whilst so many others recognise nothing at all.
How did you create the installer USB?
- with Balena Etcher
- with Grub installed on an USB (SSD drive with Tumbleweed installed on it)
It all boils down to “which version of the kernel does the installer use?” and which drivers for that kernel are actually included in the installer media?
Tumbleweed already has the 7.1.8 kernel and you will see 7.2.0 in a day or two, and Arch should be not far behind. Others might not even be at 7.x.x.
As to graphics and network, not all drivers are usually included for various reasons, if you can tell what models are in your system maybe somebody might be able to help.
…and if Tumbleweed installs, this question should go to other Forums?
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What is that supposed to mean?
I have installed Tumbleweed begin February this year : i think it had karnel 6.18.
The distos that can’t be installed are using the same.
I once asked this question on a forum and the administrator replied, “that stupid Nvidia card”.
As I was a regular on that forum, I told him that his reply was tantamount to calling me stupid, and I’ve since stopped using that distro.
My hardware:
Intel Core i9-12900K processor – 3.2GHz/30M/LGA1700/tray
Asus Dual GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB GDDR7 OC Edition graphics card
be quiet! Dark Rock 5 CPU cooler – BK035
be quiet! ATX 750W power supply – 80+ Gold – Pure Power 13 M Black
Samsung 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD – 990 PRO
Internal 3.5" WD 2TB RED Plus SATA III 64MB hard drive – WD20EFPX
Corsair CMH5X16G1B52C40A2 PC memory (1x16 DDR5 RGB 5200 PC41600 OEM) x 2
It might be that you also need to use nomodeset on the kernel commandline to start installation process of other distros.
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Yes, perhaps.
But when i see that the network card is not recognised as such other hardware, the install crash.
If you have a network card with „exotic“ chipset, it isn‘t surprising that not all distros provide support.
But usually an installer does not „crash “ because of an undetected network card. It most likely tells you that you need internet connection for full hardware and software selection.
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The network card is integarted on the mother card.
Is the mother card “exotic” ?
It absolutely can be, yes.
It depends on what chipset the Motherboard manufacturer decided to source and install.
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For me, a simply user, i see nothing that is exotic.
I have read the specs of the mother card here https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b760-f-gaming-wifi-model/spec/
Ultimately, the answer is “it depends”. Depends on how each distro is built, and what options and hardware support are included. The only way to really do what you want is to ask each distro about the specific problems you’re having.
It’s not really feasible for anyone to be able to answer such a broad question with specificity beyond “because all distros are built with different options” is about the best answer you can get, IMO.
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If it’ exotic, i wonder that Tubleweed, Ubuntu, Kinux mint works well and not the other.
I’m helping newbies coming Windows to install linux on their machine but can’t install Tunbleweed on all : 2 GO RAM and 500GO of disk (no SSD)
Because different linux distributions include different firmware by default, and different kernel configurations?
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Ok, now i understand.
And it is now more difficult to help other person.
Thanks for your information.
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This is what think hendersj and it seems it is the good answer.
I had think it is a kernel problem but it is not.
Just out of curiosity: Which are the other distros? Arch is the base for Manjaro and e.g. EndeavourOS, Cachy and others are quite close to Arch. So, depending on what the distros are that are not installable it might boil down to Arch Linux