Where is GNOME3 Respin? AS PROMISED

Hi Guys,

Below is the link that promises that the OpenSUSE release the Gnome 3 respin the day Gnome 3 is released.

openSUSE:GNOME features - openSUSE

Gnome 3 released yesterday but I see there is n activity so far in terms of re-spin. Please let me know if I’m missing something or the re-spin is not going to take place anymore. I was eagerly waiting for the GNOME3 so that I can use the respin version of OpenSUSE.

Regards,
Anant

Hello Anant, hello all,

What link do you like the most?

You could also click on the tags I added unter this thread to read some of the informations that are already on the forums…:wink:

Regards
Martin
(pistazienfresser)

Hi Martin,

Thanks for the links, but what my understanding with the RE-SPIN is, there should be an official ISO with the GNOME3 and should be available on the download page. If you look at the Fedora website you’ll see the different spins where the main spin is GNOME, similarly openSUSE has two main SPINS KDE and GNOME. Now when the mention about the RE-SPIN it means that either the GNOME version will be upgraded to the GNOME 3 or a new SPIN will be released with GNOME 3. What you have on the links I’m not sure its 100% supported by openSUSE, this is something TRY out ISOs.

The reason I’m asking here its because, openSUSE team said that the RE-SPIN will be available on the day when GNOME 3 released, I’m ok with the links you have as long as its not the statement given on the 11.4 release. I think they should not mention the release of RE-SPIN version, this makes alot of confusion, instead they should mention that the GNOME 3 environment will be available on the GNOME website to try the GNOME 3 and it will not be fully supported until the next release.

Regards,
Anant

What I want to know is what’s a SPIN???

Also it takes time to test and get things into the pipeline.

On 04/08/2011 04:06 PM, anantg wrote:
>
> Thanks for the links, but what my understanding with the RE-SPIN is,
> there should be an official ISO with the GNOME3 and should be available
> on the download page.

i read the cite in your first message and i do not see any use of the
word “promise” nor the number “11.4” or “openSUSE download page”…

so i ask: from where did you get your understanding that the openSUSE
community would release a new 11.4 iso with GNOME 3 on
software.opensuse.org and on the same day??

not challenging, just asking where and who said that–because, since
this is a forum of users helping users with their install, boot or login
(and almost completely devoid of developers) i think you should ask the
developers or community spokspersons who made the promise you cite in
your question…and, not the users here…

on the other hand, if you have a problem with the install, boot or login
of openSUSE released software, you are in the correct place to ask
those questions…


CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [NNTP via openSUSE 11.3 + KDE4.5.5 +
Thunderbird3.1.8] Can you believe it? This guy Ralph wins $181 million
in the lottery last Wednesday, and then finds the love of his life just
2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

I tried the gnome .iso’s from
Index of /repositories/GNOME:/Medias/images/iso

They are based on 11.4 and are basically that with gnome 3

But I had trouble booting, had to use TEXT mode and install isn’t booting.
Too busy to work more on it ATM

DenverD wrote:
>
> so i ask: from where did you get your understanding that the openSUSE
> community would release a new 11.4 iso with GNOME 3 on
> software.opensuse.org and on the same day??
>
I can see it in the middle of the page, of course without any “promise”.

@anantg
Did you read the very first sentence on that page:
“This page is meant to be a brainstorming area for features to focus on for
GNOME in openSUSE 11.4”
BRAINSTORMING != PROMISE


PC: oS 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | KDE 4.6.1 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | Gnome 2.32 | nVidia
ION | 3GB Ram

On 04/08/2011 06:25 PM, martin_helm wrote:
> I can see it in the middle of the page, of course without any “promise”.

oh no! it does say 11.4

and, in today’s news: “For openSUSE users, GNOME 3 will be available
next week from the GNOME Stable repository. The GNOME team wants to
ensure it is stable before unleashing it on you all. Of course,
experimental packages are available already, see link above.”
cite: http://tinyurl.com/3gyq2qo


CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [NNTP via openSUSE 11.3 + KDE4.5.5 +
Thunderbird3.1.8] Can you believe it? This guy Ralph wins $181 million
in the lottery last Wednesday, and then finds the love of his life just
2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

This is the repo list added by the gnome live cd

1 | Updates-for-openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | Updates for openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4/                                   |        
2 | home:fcrozat:gnome3_11.4         | home:fcrozat:gnome3_11.4         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:fcrozat:gnome3/openSUSE_11.4 |        
3 | openSUSE_11.4_OSS                | openSUSE_11.4_OSS                | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss                     |        
4 | openSUSE_11.4_Updates            | openSUSE_11.4_Updates            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.4                                    |        
5 | repo-debug                       | openSUSE-11.4-Debug              | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/              |        
6 | repo-debug-update                | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug       | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/11.4/                             |        
7 | repo-non-oss                     | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss/                |        
8 | repo-oss                         | openSUSE-11.4-Oss                | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/                    |        
9 | repo-source                      | openSUSE-11.4-Source             | No      | Yes     |   99     | NONE   | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss/ 

Guys,

First of all I would like to apologies for using word “PROMISE” its not exactly promise but it was very close to promise, I mean after reading that line on the above link it seems like the openSUSE will have it available for 11.4 on the day GNOME 3 release

@martin_helm
I did read the very first line but I would like to say that there is another line just after it that says “This page lists a subset of features from openFATE that are in consideration for inclusion in openSUSE 11.4” and if you look at the “openSUSE GNOME 3 respin” section its in “Work In Progress” so it means they are going to include it in 11.4.

Well, Ijust saw the today’s openSUSE news and it seems that the official repo will be available next week. So I think its worth to wait.

Regards,
Anant

Here it is
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anantg wrote:

>
> @martin_helm
> I did read the very first line but I would like to say that there is
> another line just after it that says “This page lists a subset of
> features from openFATE that are in consideration for inclusion in
> openSUSE 11.4” and if you look at the “openSUSE GNOME 3 respin” section
> its in “Work In Progress” so it means they are going to include it in
> 11.4.
>
I’ve seen that “Work in progress” also and I know that can mean anything
(available today, tomorrow, next year). Don’t treat my reply too serious, I
just think “promised” was too demanding.
:slight_smile:

In most cases things go relatively quick into one of the more official
repos. I can understand that this needs a few days. Anyway for me it is too
early to jump on that train. Until now I still do not see what benefits
Gnome 3 will bring me. What I have seen and read earlier (the discussions
I’ve seen on the web) did not convince me that I will belong to the target
audience of Gnome 3.
But let’s see, over the time I also adopted KDE4 and needed more than two
years to overcome this cultural shock.


PC: oS 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | KDE 4.6.1 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | Gnome 2.32 | nVidia
ION | 3GB Ram

So we can see from caf list of repos that the GNOME3 repo point to a folder owned by Frederic Crozat, the one responsible of the GNOME 3 LiveCD. So, it isn’t yet the stable repo announced for next week.

So, we have to be patient guys… :wink:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:36:02 +0000, DaaX wrote:

> So we can see from caf list of repos that the GNOME3 repo point to a
> folder owned by Frederic Crozat, the one responsible of the GNOME 3
> LiveCD. So, it isn’t yet the stable repo announced for next week.
>
> So, we have to be patient guys… :wink:

I would suggest that patience is a virtue. I tried installing from that
repo on my test system and it took a zypper dup to get it all installed,
but now I get the very helpful error message:

“Oh no! Something has gone wrong. Please try logging in again.”

Looks like the version of gnome-shell crashes and respawns too quickly on
this system. I’m trying to see if it’s possible to revert easily.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Here’s the STABLE repo Index of /repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/3.0/openSUSE_11.4

Yet a warning is in place. I tried to switch repos, which gave me a lot of dep. errors. Now I know how to go back to where I came from, but it’s not my hobby.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:36:02 +0000, Knurpht wrote:

> Here’s the STABLE repo ‘Index of
> /repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/3.0/openSUSE_11.4’
> (http://tinyurl.com/6guk42k)
>
> Yet a warning is in place. I tried to switch repos, which gave me a lot
> of dep. errors. Now I know how to go back to where I came from, but it’s
> not my hobby.

I didn’t get dependency errors, but with the unofficial repo I ran into
the issue I described. Removing the repo and redoing the ‘zypper dup’
reverted things for me.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Guys, after spending some time with official release of Gnome3 I’m returned back to the KDE, though the new version of GNOME is quite attractive but I miss KDE almost every step. For me KDE 4.6 is more functional, stable, beautiful and configurable.

I like better CDE, which is far more functional and stable than KDE :slight_smile: