From what I can see, qpopper was dropped from 13.1. It seems to have been reported in Bugzilla [Bug 850801] but I can’t find any progress on that. Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works. I tried using the 12.1 repositories. I found qpopper but installing it breaks a lot (280+) of stuff. I found a package on qpopper.org which, if it comes to that, I’ll try compiling. But rather than re-invent the wheel, I want to know if qpopper, or its functional equivalent, is available under 13.1.
On 2014-01-29 05:56, RBEmerson wrote:
>
> From what I can see, qpopper was dropped from 13.1. It seems to have
> been reported in Bugzilla [Bug 850801] but I can’t find any progress on
> that.
Why did you not ask again in Bugzilla? More people asking, more chances
of responses.
You could ask on the factory mail list. There is a factory package, a
12.3 package, on the main repo, but not for 13.1.
http://software.opensuse.org/package/qpopper
> Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
> critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works. I
> tried using the 12.1 repositories. I found qpopper but installing it
> breaks a lot (280+) of stuff. I found a package on qpopper.org which, if
> it comes to that, I’ll try compiling. But rather than re-invent the
> wheel, I want to know if qpopper, or its functional equivalent, is
> available under 13.1.
What’s that, a pop3 server?
Why can’t you use other thing?
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Please see PM.
You could ask on the factory mail list. There is a factory package, a
12.3 package, on the main repo, but not for 13.1.
That seems to be the only option at the moment.
> Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
> critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works. I
> tried using the 12.1 repositories. I found qpopper but installing it
> breaks a lot (280+) of stuff. I found a package on qpopper.org which, if
> it comes to that, I’ll try compiling. But rather than re-invent the
> wheel, I want to know if qpopper, or its functional equivalent, is
> available under 13.1.
What’s that, a pop3 server?
Why can’t you use other thing?
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Yep - qpopper has been working like a charm as a simple server. There are other packages, involving IMAP, etc., which means overhauling a major feature of the mission for this machine. Maybe it’s not being willing to give up having a buggy whip socket on the dashboards of Ferraris, but qpopper has gotten the job done so why change it? “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
On 2014-01-29 16:26, RBEmerson wrote:
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> robin_listas;2620393 Wrote:
>> Why did you not ask again in Bugzilla? More people asking, more chances
>> of responses.
> Please see PM.
I did, at least one, but it is better if you keep technical issues on
the thread, for several reasons: one, is that more people see them and
can add comments if something occurs to them. Another, is that for me,
as I do not use the forum via web, but via nntp, replying to PMs is a
bit more complicated.
About the second one, understood.
There are many bugzilla systems. Our system is usually very slow to
respond, but when the responses come, they are usually good quality.
Believe me, it is better to add a “me too” to that old bugzilla and ask
again.
The other route is asking on the factory mail list, because the people
that removed qpopper should be reading it.
I can do that for you later, if I remember.
>>> Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
>>> critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works.
You still have your older disk, so you can replace it back, till you
have more free time. It should be working. Or, go to 12.3, which also
has qpopper, and is maintained (12.1 is not).
> Yep - qpopper has been working like a charm as a simple server. There
> are other packages, involving IMAP, etc., which means overhauling a
> major feature of the mission for this machine. Maybe it’s not being
> willing to give up having a buggy whip socket on the dashboards of
> Ferraris, but qpopper has gotten the job done so why change it? “If it
> ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
Well, dovecot has both imap and pop3. It is what I use. Very powerful.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
The factory 1-click install failed - qpopper can’t be installed. The 32 and 64 bit d/l links 404. I’ll look at compiling the source but I don’t think that will improve the situation.
That’s the operative PM.
There are many bugzilla systems. Our system is usually very slow to
respond, but when the responses come, they are usually good quality.
Believe me, it is better to add a “me too” to that old bugzilla and ask
again.
The other route is asking on the factory mail list, because the people
that removed qpopper should be reading it.
I’ll me too.
I can do that for you later, if I remember.
>>> Unfortunately, for the time being, qpopper is literally mission
>>> critical to me. Without it, I have to go back to 12.1, where it works.
You still have your older disk, so you can replace it back, till you
have more free time. It should be working. Or, go to 12.3, which also
has qpopper, and is maintained (12.1 is not).
Now there’s a thought…
> Yep - qpopper has been working like a charm as a simple server. There
> are other packages, involving IMAP, etc., which means overhauling a
> major feature of the mission for this machine. Maybe it’s not being
> willing to give up having a buggy whip socket on the dashboards of
> Ferraris, but qpopper has gotten the job done so why change it? “If it
> ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
Well, dovecot has both imap and pop3. It is what I use. Very powerful.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
I saw the dovecot description while looking for qpopper. If i can set imap aside for the moment, it’s a possible 13.1 solution. And, no doubt, a seed for another cascade of questions from me. (Do I hear the sound of people fleeing in terror?)
Summing up: the question of “where did qpopper go under 13.1” is answered with “away”. See above re: price of progress. [/grin]
When I was managing a department solaris network, I used qpopper. I never had a problem compiling it.
My guess is that it was dropped for lack of support. At one time there were frequent bug fixes. Then those died out. Checking the “qpopper” home page, the most recent version seems to be from June 2011. And, even then, it was listed as “unsupported”.
Yep. I think qpopper has pooped out. 
On 2014-01-29 17:36, RBEmerson wrote:
> robin_listas;2620433 Wrote:
>> There are many bugzilla systems. Our system is usually very slow to
>> respond, but when the responses come, they are usually good quality.
>> Believe me, it is better to add a “me too” to that old bugzilla and ask
>> again.
>>
>> The other route is asking on the factory mail list, because the people
>> that removed qpopper should be reading it.
>> I’ll me too.
> I can do that for you later, if I remember.
I already posted on the mail list.
However, that bugzilla was entered as an upgrade problem; it is possibly
not the best “component”.
>> Well, dovecot has both imap and pop3. It is what I use. Very powerful.
> I saw the dovecot description while looking for qpopper. If i can set
> imap aside for the moment, it’s a possible 13.1 solution.
imap can certainly be disabled.
> And, no doubt,
> a seed for another cascade of questions from me. (Do I hear the sound of
> people fleeing in terror?)
…
(they are far away 
)
> Summing up: the question of “where did qpopper go under 13.1” is
> answered with “away”. See above re: price of progress. [/grin]
Well, I’d expect an answer from someone. Maybe there was no maintainer
for 13.1. It is curious.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Given the list of things broken while trying to install qpopper under 13.1, and given there are alternatives that are more robust, I’d say it’s like trying to maintain buggy whip sockets for the Ferrari crowd…
On 2014-01-29 23:16, RBEmerson wrote:
>
> Given the list of things broken while trying to install qpopper under
> 13.1, and given there are alternatives that are more robust, I’d say
> it’s like trying to maintain buggy whip sockets for the Ferrari
> crowd…
I got a reply on the mail list:
> http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-01/msg00334.html
The package was removed in April 2013 by order of the legal team. I only
know this: “declined” because “unsuitable license”.
And there is an update on the Bugzilla by somebody else that says
basically the same thing.
Why the license is unsuitable I have no idea.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
My guess is Qualcomm made some demands that simply exceeded common sense. It’s happened before… So much for qpopper.
On 2014-01-30 02:26, RBEmerson wrote:
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> My guess is Qualcomm made some demands that simply exceeded common
> sense. It’s happened before… So much for qpopper.
It can be many things. To be distributed by openSUSE means the software
has to be open, or at least have a compatible license.
However, when this sort of thing happen, openSUSE should be also more
open and clearly state why packages are dropped. Not have to bother
people having to ask for it.
Not that you did bother anyone
I mean that I had to go and bother people asking them to find out for
me. There should be mechanisms documenting this, easily accessible to
anybody.
Grumble grumble.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
“Mice tremble when elephants battle.” [/laugh]
I’ve just updated a system and I’ve found pop3 is not working because of qpopper does not exist.
I’ve read this thread and installed dovecot, but I’ve seen configuration is far from trivial.
As I’m in a hurry I’ve tried the following and it has worked:
I’ve found qpopper for OS12.3 here
Then I have download it (the rpm) and installed it with zypper with no errors.
Then I’ve activated the service pop3 in xinitd conf and I’ve got pop3 working perfectly.
I know installing a deprecated package is not “the good way”, but as a temporary solution while I read a little about some other alternative will work for me.
regards
If you do, you should at the very minimum recompile it against 12.3 from the source RPM to eliminate any dynamic library issues.
You meant to recompile it gainst 13.1?
I installed the rpm from 12.3 and zypper didn’t complained at all.
It’s now working like a charm.
Yes, against 13.1 of course. slap self
Even if it works fine, it’s a good idea to recompile it against the distribution version you are running.
On 2014-09-07 23:56, fperal wrote:
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> Miuku;2662919 Wrote:
>> If you do, you should at the very minimum recompile it against 12.3 from
>> the source RPM to eliminate any dynamic library issues.
>
> You meant to recompile it gainst 13.1?
> I installed the rpm from 12.3 and zypper didn’t complained at all.
> It’s now working like a charm.
Just download the source rpm and rebuild, it is a simple command. Ask if
you need
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/12.3/standard/src/qpopper-4.1.0-6.1.1.src.rpm
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
There haven’t been many bug reports, so it hasn’t needed much in the way of maintenance. However, contributions (for bug fixes or new features) are both still welcome.