When will Opera 11.62 package be available?

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Opera has updated to 11.62. The Opera site recommends using the package from one’s distro. When will openSUSE 12.1 get the Opera 11.62 package?

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We, your fellow users, can not answer that.

When security is involved, I guess you can have it in the Update repo rather soon.
And when there is no real need like security, there will be no official update at all for 12.1, but it (or even a newer level, depends on what is available at the last tests)), will most probably be part of the final 12.2.

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Am 30.03.2012 08:36, schrieb lak611:
>
> Opera has updated to 11.62. The Opera site recommends using the package
> from one’s distro.
Where do you read that, it just shows me the download button for linux,
clicking that I can select openSUSE and it downloads the rpm.

>When will openSUSE 12.1 get the Opera 11.62 package?
>

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:37:18 +0530, Martin Helm
<martin_helm@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> Am 30.03.2012 08:36, schrieb lak611:
>>
>> Opera has updated to 11.62. The Opera site recommends using the package
>> from one’s distro.
> Where do you read that, it just shows me the download button for linux,
> clicking that I can select openSUSE and it downloads the rpm.
>
>> When will openSUSE 12.1 get the Opera 11.62 package?
>>

as i understand this, they recommend using your distro’s repositories to
download, but provide rpm/deb packages nevertheless.

sometimes i am using opera from our OSS repos, sometimes downloaded rpms
from their website, and so far i didn’t notice any difference whatsoever.
if there’s any distro-specific modifications being applied, it’s nothing
that’s obvious to me.

btw., i downloaded & installed this latest 11.62 version, and it works
fine. i didn’t notice any of the bugs that have been fixed with this
release, so i don’t notice any improvement either.

–
phani.

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Am 30.03.2012 15:13, schrieb phanisvara das:
> as i understand this, they recommend using your distro’s repositories
That was my question: Where do they recommend that? Browsing to
opera.com I can nowhere see such an information to use packages from the
distro (and have never seen in the past).

–
PC: oS 11.4 x86_64 | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.6.0 |
GeForce GT 420
Eee PC 1201n: oS 12.1 x86_64 | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | 3GB | KDE 4.8.1
| nVidia ION
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10 |
xf86-video-geode

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:53:11 +0530, Martin Helm
<martin_helm@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> Am 30.03.2012 15:13, schrieb phanisvara das:
>> as i understand this, they recommend using your distro’s repositories

> That was my question: Where do they recommend that? Browsing to
> opera.com I can nowhere see such an information to use packages from the
> distro (and have never seen in the past).
>

well, i don’t see it now, either. i did see it on the notification that
popped up when opera noticed that a newer version was available.

but it’s up to the distros to educate their users to use distro-specific
packages IMO, not up to software vendors like opera.

–
phani.

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Am 30.03.2012 15:41, schrieb phanisvara das:
> but it’s up to the distros to educate their users to use distro-specific
> packages IMO, not up to software vendors like opera.
>
I disagree here because it is nonfree proprietary software.
http://www.opera.com/eula/browser/
So it is not up to the linux distros to take any care at all.

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PC: oS 11.4 x86_64 | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.6.0 |
GeForce GT 420
Eee PC 1201n: oS 12.1 x86_64 | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | 3GB | KDE 4.8.1
| nVidia ION
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10 |
xf86-video-geode

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:08:02 +0530, Martin Helm
<martin_helm@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> Am 30.03.2012 15:41, schrieb phanisvara das:
>> but it’s up to the distros to educate their users to use distro-specific
>> packages IMO, not up to software vendors like opera.
>>
> I disagree here because it is nonfree proprietary software.
> http://www.opera.com/eula/browser/
> So it is not up to the linux distros to take any care at all.
>

neither is it up to opera, or any other proprietary software vendor.

i mean it’s up to distros like openSUSE to tell their users to use
packages that have been adapted to the distro, from the distro’s repos.
who else’s business would that be?

–
phani.

9

Thanks, Henk.

I went ahead and downloaded the rpm from Opera’s site.

10

I have not noticed any difference either.

11

Well, when you fell a strong need for it, there is often some route to get it.

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Opera Desktop Team - Desktop Team says

11.62 is a recommended security and stability update
.
Updates on Opera have always been provided through the update repo, independent of openSUSE releases.

So, my guess is you just have to wait a bit until an opera package appears. And, yes, there is some distro specific work done by the devs: we always have 2 desktop specific packages accompanying the opera package.

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Thanks! I had previously used Firefox, which I always got from openSUSE packages. I recently started using Opera, since Firefox is not as fast or as stable in its more recent versions, whether for Linux or Windows.

It makes sense, though, that Opera packages are provided through the update repo, independent of openSUSE, since Opera is not open-source. I actually did not even know Opera was proprietary software until a few weeks ago. I have used Opera Mini on my mobile device for a long time, but I am relatively new to the desktop version of Opera.

In any event, thanks to everyone for answering my questions. :slight_smile:

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On 2012-03-30 16:45, phanisvara das wrote:
> neither is it up to opera, or any other proprietary software vendor.
>
> i mean it’s up to distros like openSUSE to tell their users to use packages
> that have been adapted to the distro, from the distro’s repos. who else’s
> business would that be?

With proprietary packages this only happens if there is a redistribution
agreement.

–
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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Thank you. That answers my question about Opera and probably other proprietary software as well.

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On 30/03/12 06:23 AM, Martin Helm wrote:
> Am 30.03.2012 15:13, schrieb phanisvara das:
>> as i understand this, they recommend using your distro’s repositories
> That was my question: Where do they recommend that? Browsing to
> opera.com I can nowhere see such an information to use packages from the
> distro (and have never seen in the past).
>
>

There was a notice to that effect when I downloaded the RPM package,
just a few hours ago. I launched Opera and: Help > Check for Updates.
Since there was an update, there was a new page recommending to use the
package service of the distro of your choice, while offering the updated
Opera in RPM, deb or whatever.

rpm -Uvvv opera-11.62-1347.x86_64.rpm

The installation was aborted because of dependencies: opera-gtk,
opera-kde4 - matching the previous version.

After I deleted the two packages, Opera was installed. (I don’t use
GNOME and rarely use KDE, anyway; well, I don’t use Opera much, either.)

I have seen the recommendation when downloading a new Opera version,
from within Opera itself.

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I went ahead and updated Opera from its site, based on the recommendations of Knurpht in post #12. Everything is fine, and I have not had any issues.

I am also trying Opera Next, which is available here.