When is Milestone 4 due to come out?

I’ve been trying to install Milestone 3 and it hasn’t been working out great (not openSUSE’s fault entirely either… just trying to use a USB stick instead of lugging out the external CD-Rom and burning the milestone to a CD which I will never use afterwards).

I looked and Milestone 4 is supposed to come out

between Jul 7 and 31 openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 4 release

I know there’s 10 days left in that time frame, but I don’t want to bother downloading Milestone 3 if I get it installed and Milestone 4 comes out. That wouldn’t be helpful reporting buts for M3 if there is the potential they are fixed in M4, right?

Thanks.

If you can wait, I would wait. :wink:

On the one hand, I would rather have kept my M3 with relatively stable kde4 beta2 until M4, and avoided spending hours on recovery. On the other, I may not have learnt how to get at and repair a borked system. The rather less stable kde4 rc1 is the price. I won’t be updating M3 again - waiting for M4. :slight_smile:

Is there any way to upgrade to M4 from M3?

Actually, reading that it sounds like a dumb idea anyway.

I’ll probably wait. I just hope it’s soon, before I get that itch to install something else in the meantime :stuck_out_tongue:

Best bet would be if I could get it to install via USB stick (I do the LiveCDs) by UNetbootin. Then I would have no problems downloading the latest one and installing it since it wouldn’t cost me a CD each time.

consused wrote:

> If you can wait, I would wait. :wink:

And, of course, if M4 comes out close to the end of the period, one might as
well wait a few more days for M5.


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Err, well using zypper dup with just two repos enabled, Factory Oss and Non-Oss, I made it from M1(dvd)->M2->M3. The problem comes if you update between milestones when some packages have been updated and not others (e.g. kde4), and that can change on a weekly basis. Doing that, I screwed up kde4 between M2 & M3 but luckily I was able to restore kde4 by updating from the KDE4 Factory repo. That’s ok if that repo happens to contain a reasonably stable kde4.

The more recent problem convinced me not to bother to upgrade the whole distro between milestones. I might update individual or groups packages though. Of course zypper dup is not actually supported as a “will work” method right now. IIRC the “plan” is to support it from 11.2 final release. But, hell, we are only testing here and expect disasters. :stuck_out_tongue:

@Cloddy an interesting point, unless M4 is the stable end of a phase with M5 an unstable beginning of one maybe…:\

As You can see there is a difference of 30 releases (or 30 days) between M2 and M3 (0116 and 0146) so M4 should be out in about 3 days.

So THAT’s where the Build numbers come from?! Thanks!

3 days… that’s Friday! Just in time to suck up my weekend time! woo hoo!

I’m also waiting for M4 which i’ll install as my full time OS, i couldn’t do it earlier since it didn’t want to boot from LVM :’(

Do the Milestones facilitate booting from ext4 without having to do anything funky during the installation?

Usually I make a /boot partition ext2 and everything else ext4 but I’d rather include the /boot into the /{root} but I couldn’t do that before without making it all ext3 or less.

If i remember well then it boots from ext4. When i tried installing M3 it didn’t make separate /boot (ext3/2) partition.

Do you have an opinion on M4 versus M5, given a very short time between?

I certainly have an opinion on M3 with which i had no problems at all :slight_smile: (not counting problems with LVM which i “temporarily solved”)

One bad thing is that it will just be an updated openSUSE since not many new things will appear.

I was thinking more along the lines why go for M4 if M5 (more up to date) is so close to it? :slight_smile:

dragonbite wrote:
> Do the Milestones facilitate booting from ext4 without having to do
> anything funky during the installation?

I installed my M3 test system in a single ext4 partition. The
installer even suggested that it be ext4. Nothing funky except that I
had to reconfigure my kernel in 11.1 to handle ext4. I don’t use the
standard kernel.

Well, you can simply install M3 and enable Factory repos. And you’ll have the same packages as M5 has :slight_smile:

Indeed you can, also from M4 to M5. However given you said this:

I’m also waiting for M4 which i’ll install as my full time OS

Given “full time”, I thought you could be going for a clean install of M4, so for a few days wait you could start with a clean install of M5. Not everything is in the Factory repos that’s on the DVD.

Well, not true, a Milestone is a snapshot of the Factory.

I’m not on 11.2 at the moment, but IIRC a package called SDL was installed by M1 and I couldn’t see it in Factory at M2, and i think I noticed same for 11.1 but that was 6 months ago(?). Could be others, very few I grant you.

Maybe because SDL isn’t really needed for a basic system. It’s mainly games?

Well that’s good. So I can carry on upgrading from Factory and avoid creating more dvd litter.:wink: