What's wrong with gnome network manager?!!!

Hi everyone.
One simple question :smiley:
What the hell is going with gnome?!
I 've installed opensuse 13.1 with gnome Desktop.
There 's no option for disconnecting from Wifi Networks in network manager.
Please don’t tell sth 's like : disable the adapter or try the forget button in the options.

No button or menu for disconnecting?

phenomx64 wrote:
> Hi everyone.
> One simple question :smiley:
> What the hell is going with gnome?!
> I 've installed opensuse 13.1 with gnome Desktop.
> There 's no option for disconnecting from Wifi Networks in network
> manager.
> Please don’t tell sth 's like : disable the adapter or try the forget
> button in the options.
>
> No button or menu for disconnecting?
you can stop network service using command
sudo systemctl stop network.service


GNOME 3.10.1
openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) 64-bit
Kernel Linux 3.11.6-4-desktop
Where are my penguins :- https://features.opensuse.org/316767

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 22:06:01 +0000, phenomx64 wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> One simple question :smiley: What the hell is going with gnome?!
> I 've installed opensuse 13.1 with gnome Desktop.
> There 's no option for disconnecting from Wifi Networks in network
> manager.

Make sure you’ve updated to gnome 3.10.2 (it’s in the update channel).

On my laptop, if I expand the Wi-Fi item in the menu (upper right
corner), I have the following options:

Select Network
Turn Off
Wi-Fi Settings

“Turn Off” does what you’re looking for. You do need to make sure nm-
applet is running.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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I also have opensuse 13.1 with gnome Desktop. But in my case the problem is that I can not get connected. Although everything else seems to work. The system recognices the usb-chip and gives a list of all of the wifi-nets residing in the air of my apartment. And the one I have connected other devices for ex. my HTC One Mini phone.

I have used Yast and its **Network Settings. **Wlan Adapter *RTL818 *is recognized and its MAC:, BusID: ja name enp0s2flu5 are shown and the IP-addres is found by *DHCP. *Clicking *Configure *and *OK *
everything necessary seems to happen.

But even after restart no netconnection. To test it I have started Firefox and it can not find the Net.

Probably I should now use the terminal. But it was long ago I tried ifconfig etc. and I do not remember them yet, so please some help :shame:

If you want to use the network manager, you have to first configure the network services to use it.

Navigate to

YaST >> Network Devices >> Network Settings >> Global Options, set ‘User Controlled with NetworkManager’

Once the Gnome NM is running, you can proceed to configuring your wireless there.

And now, the wifi started to work. It’s a Christmas Miracle lol!

Without doing anything new, I went to the computer and started openSUSE 13.1 Gnome and I even was able to uppdate the system!

By the way - Windows7 in the same computer has worked well all the time … :sarcastic:

Everybody please, read my post first.
Don’t tell sth like install or enable gnome network manager. I had installed it so!
Dont tell sth like turn off the adapter.
I don’t want to turn off my wifi!
I just want to disconnect from Associated wireless AP. Like older versions of gnome network manager.
No way?!?!
It’s a shame for new gnome network manager.

On 12/24/2013 02:16 PM, phenomx64 wrote:
>
> Everybody please, read my post first.
> Don’t tell sth like install or enable gnome network manager. I had
> installed it so!
> Dont tell sth like turn off the adapter.
> I don’t want to turn off my wifi!
> I just want to disconnect from Associated wireless AP. Like older
> versions of gnome network manager.
> No way?!?!
> It’s a shame for new gnome network manager.

Did you test during the -MSX, -Beta, or -RCX releases? If so, why didn’t you
catch this problem. If you didn’t test, why not? This is a community-based
distro. That means we all are expected to do our part. If one finds and reports
a bug, but nothing happens, then you can get irate, but only then.

I am a KDE user, and its applet does what you want.

If there is not a bug already filed, then do so. Otherwise, the problem will
never be fixed.

As a workaround, install the rfkill package. Then to shutdown the radio, you can
issue the command ‘sudo /usr/sbin/rfkill block all’. To restore, then use ‘sudo
/usr/sbin/rfkill unblock all’.

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 20:16:01 +0000, phenomx64 wrote:

> Everybody please, read my post first.
> Don’t tell sth like install or enable gnome network manager. I had
> installed it so!
> Dont tell sth like turn off the adapter.
> I don’t want to turn off my wifi!
> I just want to disconnect from Associated wireless AP. Like older
> versions of gnome network manager.
> No way?!?!
> It’s a shame for new gnome network manager.

Did you try my suggestion, and make sure you updated to the latest GNOME
in the update channel? That version works fine here, on GNOME 3, on
openSUSE 13.1.

Instead of saying things like “do not tell … like” - try following the
suggestions that are made. And please be polite when asking questions -
or you might find people disinclined to help you. We do expect people to
be courteous here (both asking and responding).

As Larry says, we all do testing, including you - if you find a bug,
report it so it can be fixed. Just complaining about it isn’t going to
get it fixed.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Hi sir. You are right. I’m guilty, because i never had participate in beta or RC releases and test them.I’m an Opensuse fan, really love it. tried every famous distro and found it’s the best. You are right. It’s a community distro and we must make it,but I was wondering how a programmer can not make think of these. Nearly every process nearly have the reverse. Install,uninstall, turn off,turn on ,delete, undelete and so on. And in this case if you connect to a AP, you must have a little option to DISCONNECT from it. Not to shut down the radio. How did the nm-applet coders forget to have this.It’s somehow funny. I didn’t report this because I think it’s a feature not a bug!
I just wanted a simple disconnect option like the red cross in KDE nm-applet, disconnect button in M$ windows.
I will be glad to report the bugs. but in most cases when I report them, then the team will neglect it or maybe because of that I’m not a native english speaker I can’t express my self well to them.
Although some bugs have a long story and never solved , like the hibernate button for gnome :smiley:
Anyway please tell me where to report this bug? novel bugzilla or nm-applet?

Hi. Pardon me.Everybody please forgive me. I was angry but didn’t want to be rudish.
I was angry because sometimes people here tell workarounds to question but the main question never be answered.
I have done your suggestion before, i had gnome 3.10.1 and had turn off option in nm-applet already before.
I know how to disable or shutdown the wireless adapter but i want to only disconnect from AP not to turn it down.
Even today i 've installed the latest 3.10.2 and nothing differs. No disconnect option yet.
In older versions like 3.6 when you right clicked a connected WLAN , it would be disconnected. But in 3.10 no options to do this.
Thanks for your help and support :slight_smile:

Actually no, it does not. “Turn Off” completely disables WiFi in NM. It is not the same as disconnecting from currently associated AP but leaving wireless enabled.

Although it would be interesting to know why this is needed. May be there are other means to achieve the same.

On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:36:01 +0000, arvidjaar wrote:

> hendersj;2609391 Wrote:
>>
>> “Turn Off” does what you’re looking for.
>
> Actually no, it does not. “Turn Off” completely disables WiFi in NM. It
> is not the same as disconnecting from currently associated AP but
> leaving wireless enabled.

Ah, I see. Though I consider it a difference without distinction.

> Although it would be interesting to know -why- this is needed. May be
> there are other means to achieve the same.

Yes, that is something that would be interesting to know - why is it
important to disconnect without turning the interface off - maybe for
wireless network analysis?

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Exactly. You are right. I need it for some wireless analysis.
It’s needed in many cases as like as it is included in nm-applet KDE :smiley:

On 2014-01-02 20:59, Jim Henderson wrote:

>> Although it would be interesting to know -why- this is needed. May be
>> there are other means to achieve the same.
>
> Yes, that is something that would be interesting to know - why is it
> important to disconnect without turning the interface off - maybe for
> wireless network analysis?

I use XFCE, but the explanation is valid.

Yesterday I was trying to hook my laptop to my cellular phone, the phone
supplying internet. To do this, I had to first disconnect my laptop from
my router.

Well, every time I disconnected from router and clicked connect to
phone, and this failed (unrelated reason), the blasted thing
automatically reconnected to the router. It did not stay off as told.

Just one sample of why want to disconnect from a particular AP :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:38:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2014-01-02 20:59, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>>> Although it would be interesting to know -why- this is needed. May be
>>> there are other means to achieve the same.
>>
>> Yes, that is something that would be interesting to know - why is it
>> important to disconnect without turning the interface off - maybe for
>> wireless network analysis?
>
> I use XFCE, but the explanation is valid.
>
> Yesterday I was trying to hook my laptop to my cellular phone, the phone
> supplying internet. To do this, I had to first disconnect my laptop from
> my router.
>
> Well, every time I disconnected from router and clicked connect to
> phone, and this failed (unrelated reason), the blasted thing
> automatically reconnected to the router. It did not stay off as told.
>
> Just one sample of why want to disconnect from a particular AP :slight_smile:

Then a bug needs to be raised to address the issue. :slight_smile: That does
certainly sound like a legitimate use case.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

On 2014-01-18 06:28, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:38:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

>> It did not stay off as told.
>>
>> Just one sample of why want to disconnect from a particular AP :slight_smile:
>
> Then a bug needs to be raised to address the issue. :slight_smile: That does
> certainly sound like a legitimate use case.

I thought of it as a minor but pesky nuisance.

It maybe a feature, maybe the other connection is marked as “connect
automatically”. If I set the connection to router off, then I select to
connect to another network, which fails, the thing then automatically
reconnects to the first one, because it is set as automatic.

Just a guess.

In that case the bug would probably be marked as invalid or something.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)