What's the best way to go back from 13.1 to 12.3?

Zypper dup apparently continued on after I found the needed libstdc++. I had to use the 12.3 dvd to get to a condition where I could install the correct libstdc++ rpm, then I had to run zypper dup about five times, but I finally ended up with a usable system again, although there is still more work to be done.

 wolfi, in retrospect, I should have run "zypper in -f zypper" first.  It didn't occur to me that 13.1's zypper would cause a problem like that.  As far as the bugs I posted are concerned, I received a request from bugzilla.kernel.org to install 3.8, 3.9, and 3.10 to help them to determine  where regression should take place.  Since your link to "gossamerthreads" already confirmed that there was no problem up to 3.10, I decided to install 3.10 after I am sure that 12.3 is stable, to help them out, but only install the others if 3.10 appears to have the same problem as 3.11.

 I understand and appreciate all the comments about using a separate partition to install new releases, but I still intend to use a totally different hard drive, because if the next release works like 13.1, I want the pleasure of removing the drive, stomping on it, and then throwing the pieces away.>:)

 BTW I reported my problems to a friend of mine who also uses openSUSE, and he reported issues with xorg and eclipse, but apparently he is not filing bugs.

Thanks to everyone, I learned a lot from this.

On 2014-05-14 01:16, motonut wrote:

> wolfi, in retrospect, I should have run “zypper in -f zypper”
> first. It didn’t occur to me that 13.1’s zypper would cause a problem
> like that.

And I should have known better and told you, because I have known for
ages that’s the case. But I forgot, because I seldom use that procedure,
and I’ve never done a “distro downgrade” myself that way, or i don’t
remember about it. It is a recommendation to update first rpm, zypper,
and solver libraries, before using “zypper dup”. It is not always
necessary, so we ignore it; but when it is necessary, as in your case,
you get bitten, badly.

> I understand and appreciate all the comments about using a separate
> partition to install new releases, but I still intend to use a totally
> different hard drive, because if the next release works like 13.1, I
> want the pleasure of removing the drive, stomping on it, and then
> throwing the pieces away.>:)

LOL.

> BTW I reported my problems to a friend of mine who also uses
> openSUSE, and he reported issues with xorg and eclipse, but apparently
> he is not filing bugs.

Well… things happen. I use three separate machines with 13.1, on some
more than a single install, plus some virtual installs… it is working
perfectly, one of the best releases I used, so far.

I had a problem for a while, though: hibernation triggered a bad bug on
the kernel on 32 bit hardware, so I had to wait about three months
before the solution was backported and I could install it on one of the
machines.

But then, some people hit on bad problems.

> Thanks to everyone, I learned a lot from this.

Welcome.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.

(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))

If you have the luxury of another drive, why not do it that way; ie: install to the other drive to do the testing?