I checked the images of the new Ubuntu software or app center and i think this looks promising. Why? Well, i think it makes room for a community approach to a) rate apps b) offer also commercial software c) easier access.
In my opinion it is, and i read it somewhere as well, like the iapp center or what it is called. Or the Android app center.
I wonder if other distro go the same way, or if this is just an Ubuntu lonely road.
well, anyway. What you guys think about it. Is it a bad idea or something that perhaps makes sense in this world of ours.
On 10/24/2011 09:36 PM, malcolmlewis wrote:
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> This is looking for a person to take it over AFAIK…
> http://tinyurl.com/44suq6d
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> I think that some features could be added to OBS to provide some
> information and perhaps user feedback?
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> You can see overall stats for build downloads here (big download, be
> patient)
> http://www.suse.de/~coolo/repo.list
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> For example, in my Miscellaneous repository there have been 303,527
> downloads for 11.4 (home:malcolmlewis:Miscellanous::openSUSE_11.4) from
> that list it’s the most popular home repository (Have no idea what or
> why is being downloaded) from the following list;
> http://tinyurl.com/3rvpsn6
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Long list you have.
I think where i was heading is the presentation. Even though i don’t use
Ubuntu and i am very happy with openSUSE i find the idea of a more
visible offering enticing.
Especially the rating system which can give a user some form of guidance
what to try.
Btw. i still can not convince myself to install any other distro but
openSUSE.
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My opinion. It would be wonderful to have the visually appealing aspects as long as the system still provided the power the Yast package manager provides.
Gimme both and I’ll be a happy camper, but if I had to choose between them I’d take Yast.
I second that. If it’s one or the other, stick with Yast. If it’s both, and doesn’t introduce breakage, all the better. I can’t help but admit that the Ubuntu Software Center is visually appealing and is the only form of package management (besides Mint’s software center) that has surpassed the 1990’s.
I clicked “No” by accident, but I wanted to choose “no opinion”.
Anyway… for me both kinds of app centers, aka YaST´s approach, or Ubuntu Softwarecenter. As I still used Ubuntu, I tried the softwarecenter only once. Most of the time I used Synaptic (the YaST equivalent). But I also liked the Mint Softwarecenter.
My opinion. It would be wonderful to have the visually appealing aspects as long as the system still provided the power the Yast package manager provides.
Gimme both and I’ll be a happy camper, but if I had to choose between them I’d take Yast.
I too voted “no opinion”, where I meant to vote “I don’t mind”. Looks like openSUSE users are quite flexible in this matter. If it goes beyond just software management, the one thing I miss on Ubuntu is something like Yast, U. simply does not have that.
On 10/27/2011 04:36 AM, Knurpht wrote:
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> I too voted “no opinion”, where I meant to vote “I don’t mind”. Looks
> like openSUSE users are quite flexible in this matter. If it goes beyond
> just software management, the one thing I miss on Ubuntu is something
> like Yast, U. simply does not have that.
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Actually what i do miss in some way, is a category of some sort. Lets
say i want to see any software regarding astronomy and i would be
presented with whatever is available.
Right now you only see whats in (example) Education or Programming.
Anything else falls in a big void. Or perhaps i use it totally wrong.
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> Hi
> In YaST Software management you can sort by ‘Groups’ based on;
> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Package_group_guidelines
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> Note, groups are being deprecated in rpms at some point in the future.
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A good point whay some sort of more abstract way to view what programs (not
packages) are avaible and what they are makes sense for many users. Of
course not as a substitute for yast but as an additional convenience layer
(in yast or as an extra program).
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From my experience the Ubuntu Appstore was one of the few positive experiences I’ve had with that distribution. While I appreciate apt package management as well, it would be great to see something like this in Opensuse. If not an Appstore, at least a more intuitive way for beginners to search for software and/or find what repo is needed to make it available without thinking they have to crack open a web browser and search for it.
I voted yes because SUSE has a powerfull app repos but its not for the new user. A rework would be nice, it doesnt have to be like that but something else
I clicked yes because it would be a great way for new Linux users to install applications easily. It is the only reason I still recommend Linux Mint to new users. People who don’t understand openSUSE find it hard to install applications, deal with packages missing/conflicts/versions, repositories, etc. Also, for a long time with Ubuntu and still with Linux Mint you had the app centre and Synaptic side by side. There is no reason why we can’t have YAST and this App centre. So a big YES from me.
I have no idea what it is like, as I’ve not installed OpenSUSE yet, but I know they used to have one-click installer packages. Is that something that works with everything in the repos? I only ask as it would be neat enough to have a web interface for it that could search and browse.
Also, since we’re discussing a “feature of ubuntu”, here is one that ties directly into the app store, which is cool from a developer standpoint. It’s a tool called Quickly, and it kind of does for ubuntu and app store development what ruby and rails development did for some websites. Pretty interesting stuff. Take a look if you have a moment or care about this sort of thing. Get started | Ubuntu App Developer
The software center brings together a visually appealing view of the applications, the ability for users to rate applications and the streamlined intermingling of for-pay and free applications which I think is important for making the distribution more appealing to the consumer-type user and is better suited for the target systems of tablets and touch-screen devices.
The one-click’s are still here and work regardless of the repos You’ve got. If necessary they add required repositories (I guess it’s configured in the one-click installation file but not sure) during installation and You can choose whether to leave the repositories in your system or not using a check box.
I totally agree with that. I think, it would be nice to add some kind of user rating to yast and maybe some screenshots of the applications, but I still want to be able to see all the dependencies of a package, the different versions that are available in different repositories etc.
For me, yast is the main reason for using OpenSuse over any other linux distro. That’s also why I would like any changes to yast to be made with care.
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>creatura85;2401238 Wrote:
>> No, we could improve YaST for that in my opinion, no need to use
>> another Software Center since YaST has Software Management in it.
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>I totally agree with that. I think, it would be nice to add some kind
>of user rating to yast and maybe some screenshots of the applications,
>but I still want to be able to see all the dependencies of a package,
>the different versions that are available in different repositories
>etc.
>For me, yast is the main reason for using OpenSuse over any other linux
>distro. That’s also why I would like any changes to yast to be made
>with care.
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>Btw. did not vote.
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My question would be only, why not melt everything together and have
both worlds?
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