What is the origin of the current openSUSE Linux Project, which was founded by Novell...

opensuser2010 · June 19, 2010, 3:02am

What is the origin of the current openSUSE Linux Project, which was founded by Novell, with support from the community he comes from Global, the United States of America or Germany?

Here I am trying to clarify this doubt, and for that, I think of three options:

First choice:

OpenSUSE Linux Project is home Global (Worldwide), originated and is maintained by developers around the world.

Second option:

OpenSUSE Linux Project is home, American (United States of America), originated and is maintained by developers of America (the United States of America).

Third choice:

OpenSUSE Linux Project is home, German (Germany), originated and is maintained by developers German (Germany).

In my opinion, based on this article (Genix Info), the original Project openSUSE Linux, would the United States of America (for Novell is an American company, the United States of America) or origin Global (Worldwide).

I expect a response.

hendersj · June 19, 2010, 6:14am

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:06:09 +0000, opensuser2010 wrote:

> What is the origin of the current openSUSE Linux Project, which was
> founded by Novell, with support from the community he comes from Global,
> the United States of America or Germany?

It’s a global project. Many of the developers are based in Germany, the
US, and in other countries around the world.

(BTW, no need to tell us you “expect” an answer - answers are generally
freely given.)

Jim

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caf4926 · June 19, 2010, 6:23am

SUSE Linux distributions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ken_yap · June 19, 2010, 8:06am

Yes, I found that phrase strange too, but I guessed s/he is a non-English writer who intended to say something like “I am looking forward to an answer”. I’m sure I would write a slightly odd phrase in an unfamiliar language too.

DenverD · June 19, 2010, 9:43am

opensuser2010 wrote:
> I expect a response.

and i expect a “thank you for the fast and complete responses” !!

opensuser2010 · June 19, 2010, 3:21pm

Thank you all for giving me answers, quickly and completely.

The final sentence: “I expect a response.” It’s because I was really looking forward to a response.

Thank you!

genixinfo · July 10, 2011, 10:29pm

OpenSUSE Linux Project is Global (Worldwide) as it is on the main page: Main Page - openSUSE

Being Global (Worldwide), also in all the media openSUSE Linux on DistroWatch, as is Debian.

genixinfo · July 13, 2011, 12:04am

Registered at openFATE: https://features.opensuse.org/312629

robopensuse · July 14, 2011, 11:12pm

Definitely fairly global already, very odd that you think otherwise. Some countries may be poorly represented no doubt.

a_jaeger · July 19, 2011, 9:10am

Why did you add this to fate? Fate contains specific enhancements - and this is an universal goal and I do not see what needs to be done. If you volunteer to e.g. translate, then speak up on the opensuse-translation mailing list. openSUSE is a global project of volunteers.

john_hudson · July 19, 2011, 9:43am

In which case, it is more idiomatic to say something like ‘I await your responses’ or ’ I await your responses with interest’ or whatever emotion you feel.

You may also be interested in reading this master’s thesis on the transition from SUSE to openSUSE http://janfredrik.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/stoveland_master_final.pdf

DenverD · July 19, 2011, 10:16am

On 07/19/2011 09:36 AM, a jaeger wrote:
>
> Why did you add this to fate?

i suppose there are two reasons:

submitter is confused about the purpose of FATE
submitter incorrectly thought the distro “originated” in the USA as
openSUSE and wanted to ‘broaden’ it by using “Origin: Global” as does
Debian on DistroWatch

see:
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=Debian

for @genixinfo: it is historical correct to list openSUSE’s origin in
Germany as S.u.S.E., SuSE, SUSE, SLES/D and openSUSE all originated from
the same single source, a small independent company in Germany which
predates Debian’s “Global” origin by some years…

cite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE

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robopensuse · July 20, 2011, 2:26pm

Who cares about Distrowatch, it’s just not really that important is it?

SuSE Linux & Debian both originated in same era though, about 1993 - 1996; the key difference is one was Community developed by people in many countries, and another
as a commercial enterprise. If you tried submitting patches to SuSE 7.1 say, the developers response was rather different to contributions to Debian. Novell chose to open up development and build a community, following roughly Red Hat/Fedora model.

Debian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Wiki":

1993–1998

Debian was first announced on 16 August 1993 by Ian Murdock.[21] Murdock initially called the system “the Debian Linux Release”.[22] Prior to Debian’s release, the Softlanding Linux System (SLS) had been the first Linux distribution compiled from various software packages, and was a popular basis for other distributions in 1993-1994.[23] The perceived poor maintenance and prevalence of bugs in SLS[24] motivated Murdock to launch a new distribution.

In 1993 Murdock also released the Debian Manifesto,[25] outlining his view for the new operating system. In it he called for the creation of a distribution to be maintained in an open manner, in the spirit of Linux and GNU. He formed the name “Debian” as a combination of the first name of his then-girlfriend Debra Lynn and his own first name.[26]

The Debian Project grew slowly at first and released the first 0.9x versions in 1994 and 1995

SUSE Linux distributions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Under Attachmate, branching & submitting, rather than commenting so actual “doing” with active contribution is more encouraged than I’ve seen before. It is a global project, but why deny the origin? Re-writing history never looked good to me!

DenverD · July 20, 2011, 3:43pm

On 07/20/2011 02:36 PM, robopensuse wrote:

> Who cares about Distrowatch, it’s just not really that important is it?

not at all important…well, their rack up of distros 1 to whatever is
absolutely unimportant to me and anyone else who knows anything about
statistics…

as an wide ranging info source, they are good to have…

> SuSE Linux& Debian both originated in same era though, about 1993 -
> 1996 . . . [big snip] . . . Re-writing history never looked good to me!

wow, i didn’t realize Debian pre-dated SuSE…

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DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

genixinfo · July 20, 2011, 5:38pm

But it’s not a matter of marketing, but a question of distribution, openSUSE Linux project, has to be more global in the slogan on DistroWatch, the Internet and the World, so it should first clarify its history, to know their real origin, which is what I think:

My suggestion is to make it more global in the slogan on DistroWatch, the Forum and the Internet.

In the Forum:
Because the forum openSUSE Linux does not support UTF-8 format text with accents, used in the…

OpenSUSE Linux Project History:
SUSE Linux distributions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I consider the beginning of the project openSUSE Linux was in version 10.3 in 2007, where he used the name of the openSUSE Linux from the beginning of its development until the final version:
openSUSE News

I do not want to deny the origin of the old SuSE Linux, the old SuSE Linux was acquired by Novell, and developed with the support of the community, and later, SuSE Linux was open to the world through the project openSUSE Linux, with this, we have currently two distributions founded and maintained by Novell:

1 - openSUSE Linux - open-source project, founded and maintained by Novell with the support of the community.

2 - SUSE Linux Enterprise - business, based on Linux openSUSE, founded and maintained by Novell.

malcolmlewis · July 20, 2011, 7:37pm

Hi
This is incorrect, founded by Novell, now Attachmate and maintained by
SuSE…

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john_hudson · July 20, 2011, 8:01pm

It didn’t; SuSE was found on 2 September 1992, over eleven months before Debian, in order to support Unix systems - so next year is SuSE/SUSE’s 20th anniversary.

genixinfo · July 20, 2011, 8:43pm

I said that Linux openSUSE project was founded and maintained by Novell with the support of the community and was opened to the world by Novell, making openSUSE Linux International, since Novell has presence in several places in the world. OpenSUSE Linux needs to be more global, as I said before.

About the release dates of Linux distributions:

GNU/Linux Distribution Timeline

DenverD · July 20, 2011, 9:16pm

On 07/20/2011 08:46 PM, genixinfo wrote:
>
> I said that Linux openSUSE project was founded and maintained by Novell
> with the support of the community and was opened to the world by Novell,
> making openSUSE Linux International, since Novell has presence in
> several places in the world.

first: the problem with what you said before and what you say now is
that the project originated in Germany 20+ years before it was
purchased and renamed SUSE and then openSUSE by Novell…

> OpenSUSE Linux needs to be more global, as I said before.

second: openSUSE is global, and has been global since before you made
your first post here…

like, have you noticed (scroll down on http://forums.opensuse.org/) we
have active forums in these languages:

Chinese
Dutch
French
German
Greek
Hungarian
Japanese
Portuguese
Russian
Hebrew
Spanish

oh, and one other: English…and, there was some interest from a guy in
Syria not too long ago to start up one in Arabic…

and the English language forums are regularly used bu folks in the
USA, Canada, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, UK, Australia, Denmark,
Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Poland, India, Mexico, Brazil,
Portugal, on and on and on and on…

so, just how do you define global?

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DD
Caveat-Hardware-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

genixinfo · July 20, 2011, 10:05pm

DenverD,

The question is to offer full support for multiple languages:

Because the forum openSUSE Linux does not support UTF-8 format text with accents, used in the…