Hello, please assist and inform me what is the well known path and how to create a really tiny LIVE-Boot-CD with only some packages like a core or a base-system(not more than 50 I think). Found some small infos from other distros but wont change the distro for now. Thanks in advance.
Peter
I visited SUSE Studio before but the resulting filesize is around 240MB. Is there no possibility to get a smaller result?
On 02/16/2013 01:56 AM, peterli65 wrote:
> I visited SUSE Studio before but the resulting filesize is around 240MB.
> Is there no possibility to get a smaller result?
-=WELCOME=- new poster…we are happy you have an interest in
openSUSE, however think on this:
given that you have not told us what packages you selected, nor what
are the needs of the studio product, how could we possibly know what
to suggest??
like 1: did you include X though you don’t need it?
like 2: did you include a desktop environment? if yes, why and which
one? if there are smaller DEs why not use one of those?
like 3: if you must have a DE did you select only the must have (for
your needs) pieces of it?
like 4: did you include networking though it is unneeded?
get the idea of the amount of information you must provide with such
a question?
and, please note: imho, if your goal is a small footprint, you are
not gonna get much better than the already existing and ready to roll
DSL which weighs in at 50 MB, see http://tinyurl.com/broyf
of course, if you don’t need a desktop (who would??) you can make it
REALLY tiny and still network, run a mail-server or be the heart of a
hardware firewall device or phone or refrigerator control device or
or or or or.
perhaps a review of this “How to ask a question the smart way” FAQ
will be helpful to you: http://tinyurl.com/anel
it might, for example lead you to a quicker smile than available by
simply asking questions that can not be answered without a fully
functional crystal ball…(mine is broken and out for repair) 
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dd
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peterli65 wrote:
>> I visited SUSE Studio before but the resulting filesize is around 240MB.
>> Is there no possibility to get a smaller result?
>given that you have not told us what packages you selected, nor what
>are the needs of the studio product, how could we possibly know what
>to suggest??
Thank you for your friendly answer.
At first it will be be nice if there will be a description of the magic which is behind SUSE Studio and how can someone do that by hand.
I figured out that there is genisoimage, zisofs-tols and **squashfs **but how to use them to have a working LIVE-CD which can act as a Installation-Media?
>like 1: did you include X though you don’t need it?
>like 2: did you include a desktop environment? if yes,
>why and which one? if there are smaller DEs why not use one of those?
>like 3: if you must have a DE did you select only the must have (for
>your needs) pieces of it?
No GUI, only the console
>like 4: did you include networking though it is unneeded?
Networking and yast2-live-installer are a must have to install all after installation needed applications via zypper.
Also rpm and lsb, lsb-release are a must have to create it as compatible as possible.
>and, please note: imho, if your goal is a small footprint, you are
>not gonna get much better than the already existing and ready to roll
>DSL which weighs in at 50 MB, see DistroWatch.com: Damn Small Linux
DSL comes with apt and without rpm?
But I want rpm! This is because the LSB Distribution Test Suite needs it.
>of course, if you don’t need a desktop (who would??) you can make it
>REALLY tiny and still network, run a mail-server or be the heart of a
>hardware firewall device or phone or refrigerator control device or
>or or or or.
But you have to chose a profile at SUSE Studio and when choosing the smallest possible(JeOS) you get 190 packages or so.
Are these really all needed?
My idea is to build a system where there is a borderline between the basesystem which is as LSB-compatible as possible and comes from a good known distro and the userland applications which should come direct from the programmer group or a independent source like OpenPKG(OpenPKG Project). So everybody could concentrate on what he can do best. Also I dont want the used Boot-Splashscreen(build with SUSE-Studio-hint).
It would also be nice if Tumbleweed with Current could be choosen as repo.
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Peter
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems![/QUOTE]
On 02/16/2013 03:26 PM, peterli65 wrote:
> But you have to chose a profile at SUSE Studio
this thread has turned from being one asking how to create a live CD
using openSUSE to how to do that in a certain way using SUSE Studio…
so, i’m going to ask a moderator to move it to best place for that
discussion [where real SUSE Studio gurus are likely to see it, and
respond].
please wait until this thread is reborn in the Forum SUSE Studio -
Build an appliance - or your own custom Linux distro - with a few
mouse clicks. Customize it to your heart’s content, and share it with
the world! http://tinyurl.com/6bzscrr
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dd
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!
Closed and will be moved.
Mop
Moved from Install/Boot/Login and open again.
On 2013-02-16 15:26, peterli65 wrote:
>
> At first it will be be nice if there will be a description of the magic
> which is behind SUSE Studio and how can someone do that by hand.
> I figured out that there is genisoimage, zisofs-tols and *squashfs
> *but how to use them to have a working LIVE-CD which can act as a
> Installation-Media?
I do not know how it is exactly done. SUSE Studio uses… I forgot the
name, it is a package that you can install locally and use it instead to
build your own distro. It is not easy, though.
The smaller livecd that works for installation is the network install
CD. You can dissect it and find out. In fact, I’m curious to know how
the boot image is constructed, but I have no idea. I tried, but not
sufficiently, I’m afraid.
>> of course, if you don’t need a desktop (who would??) you can make it
>> REALLY tiny and still network, run a mail-server or be the heart of a
>> hardware firewall device or phone or refrigerator control device or
>> or or or or.
> But you have to chose a profile at SUSE Studio and when choosing the
> smallest possible(JeOS) you get 190 packages or so.
> Are these really all needed?
That’s something to ask at the suse studio subforum here
I don’t know if you can take a sample of a small system available there,
published by some one, and then if it is possible to use it as a basis
for your derivative.
I have used “ext4magic_rescue_TUI.x86_64-0.0.3.oem.tar.gz” which is text
based IIRC, and has 226 MB compressed.
> My idea is to build a system where there is a borderline between the
> basesystem which is as LSB-compatible as possible and comes from a good
> known distro and the userland applications which should come direct from
> the programmer group or a independent source like OpenPKG(‘OpenPKG
> Project’ (http://www.openpkg.org)). So everybody could concentrate on
> what he can do best. Also I dont want the used Boot-Splashscreen(build
> with SUSE-Studio-hint).
I think that the splash is there because you are using a product for
free and they want some retribution: at least some publicity. If that is
the case you will not find much help removing it.
> It would also be nice if Tumbleweed with Current could be choosen as
> repo.
I don’t think that’s a good idea, the image would have to be rebuild weekly.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
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On 2013-02-16 17:06, hcvv wrote:
>
> hcvv;2527720 Wrote:
>> Closed and will be moved.Mop
> Moved from Install/Boot/Login and open again.
Thanks for moving my last post. I wrote it before the warning appeared
in my folder, sorry.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)
> I hope this admin action of mine makes the thread more
> readable in the NNTP suse-studio area.
it does, and thank you!
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dd