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4 months ago I bought a new HP ZBook Firefly 16 inch G10 Mobile Workstation. That model was even offered in a configuration without an operating system, which I of course took advantage of.
I happily use the notebook with openSUSE Leap 15.5 with KDE desktop environment.
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My Lenovo P16s Gen2 matches all that. Incl the RJ45.
knurpht@Lenovo-P16
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OS: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20240609 x86_64
Host: 21K9CTO1WW (ThinkPad P16s Gen 2)
Kernel: Linux 6.9.3-1-default
Uptime: 3 hours, 24 mins
Packages: 4004 (rpm), 19 (flatpak)
Shell: bash 5.2.26
Display (BOE0B80): 1920x1200 @ 60Hz [Built-in]
DE: KDE Plasma 6.0.5
WM: KWin (Wayland)
WM Theme: Breeze
Theme: Breeze (OpenSUSEdarkalternateTitleGreen) [QT], Breeze-Knurpht [GTK2/3/4]
Icons: breeze-dark [QT], breeze-dark [GTK2/3/4]
Font: Noto Sans (10pt) [QT], Noto Sans (10pt) [GTK2/3/4]
Cursor: breeze (24px)
Terminal: yakuake 24.05.0
Terminal Font: Monospace (14pt)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics (16) @ 5,13 GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon 780M @ 0,80 GHz [Integrated]
Memory: 8,86 GiB / 58,56 GiB (15%)
Swap: 0 B / 2,00 GiB (0%)
Disk (/): 538,06 GiB / 951,37 GiB (57%) - btrfs
Local IP (enp1s0f0): 192.168.1.66/24 *
Battery: 95% [AC Connected]
Locale: nl_NL.UTF-8
I am running one on my framwork 13 amd laptop. Tumbleweed is so great out of the box. No post-install tweaks were needed.
I can personally vouch for Tuxedo. My Polaris is probably the best computer I’ve ever owned. Tumbleweed runs pretty much flawless on it.
Only drawbacks:
Keyboard. The keyboard button arrangement is highly uncommon(maybe for American users) and took some getting used to, specifically the left and right shift keys are swapped in terms of size(left shift is smaller and right is larger). As well, the enter key is not common in terms of size or form.
It is also unfortunate that they don’t have many options for non-Nvidia systems on the mid-higher end hardware. They only have a few AMD gpu options and they are all towards the lower end.
Would still recommend though.
The Dell XPS 15 Models run really well. Some older models are easily bought for a fairly low price second hand.
My only issue, is that the one I bought new (a 7560 or something like that) had physical hardware defects after one year and I had to send it back to Dell. They repaired it, but it had problems again one year later.
In the meantime, I bought an older Model second hand - a Dell XPS 9560, and I never had any issues with it. I am using it since one year, and it still works like a charm. I’ll have to send back my ‘new’ old one for a reparation again, which is quite annoying.
It seems to me that the laptop build quality is a bit random nowadays. Sometimes, you get a computer that stands the test of time for 10-20 years, and sometimes it’s just repair after repair. But I don’t think, that Dell’s the only manufacturer having such issues.
It’s quite ironic, that the laptop I bought for a good price second hand, is having no issues but that the brand new computer I bought for a high price has.
If I have to buy another laptop, I’ll either buy another one second hand, or buy a Tuxedo.
I’ve read stories that computers made during the worst of COVID were often made quite poorly. Some of the stories were about Dell in particular.
I don’t know, but this may explain your experiences.
Some people recommend avoiding used computers built in 2020 and 2021, especially corporate laptops.
Interesting, it would make sense, they probably had to rush the process since they were overwhelmed by the demand. Still unacceptable though, if I pay a high price for a high quality product, I expect a high quality product. Anyway, what does “high quality product” really mean nowadays?
I’m probably not gonna buy much “new” (depends of course on what everyone considers new) hardware anyway.
Since I’m using Linux, I don’t need the brand new shiny thing! Ewaste is already a big problem, and it’s a good thing to buy less new and (re)use more old.