What happened to the RHEL 5 Mono repository?

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#1

Hi all,

I’ve been gratefully using the Mono repository for RHEL 5 for the last year at:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Mono/RHEL_5/

Which worked marvelously, at least until yesterday. I just tried to update today and to my dismay discovered that it is simply not there anymore; Has anything changed that I should know about or does anyone knowsomething about this?

Kind regards,

Rubin.

#2

There is plenty of noise about fedora pulling it from the distro perhaps it’s related.

#3

did you also send a note to webmaster@opensuse.org

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#4

i don’t think it’s related. Fedora removed mono from the repository many moons ago. And as far as I can see, the Mono repository on download.opensuse.org is not under Fedora control, right?

I just want to know why someone removed a repository that people are using (like me) without a message anywhere stating that it will be removed or be down for maintainance, or something like that.

So anyone with information about this please step forward. I’m also not sure if this place would be the place to post this but I don’t know where else to post…

#5

I did find this I can only suspect who ever was maintaining it has given up and iirc they’ve just reshuffled the repo’s so perhaps the space was reclaimed.

http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/mono-packagers-list/2009-April/000092.html

Sounds probable perhaps try the mailing list see what they say.

#6

> the Mono repository on download.opensuse.org is not under Fedora
> control, right?

i am trying to help! at the URL you gave i read:

“If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster
<webmaster@opensuse.org>.”

it seems you think it IS an error to not be able to connect, not be
told it was taken down, or not be told where it moved to, right?

so ask the webmaster who has control, i’m sure gets a pay check from
Novell and not from the openSUSE community here…

as far as i know, no one here in this ‘community’ USERS (who volunteer
their time to HELP folks like you) have any control over the servers
owned by Novell…

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#7

This actually has happened quite a while ago if memory serves me right.

Mono is still available, but from a 3rd party repository which I am trying ot find the name of.

EDIT: RPMForge, which includes RPMs for CentOS and Fedora. Cannot vouche for how up-to-date it is though.

Oh, and on the CentOS website there is a page that goes over installing RPMForge.

Since you said RHEL I’ll just iterate, CentOS is a “Community ENTerprise Operating System” which is built off of Red Hat source and focuses on being 100% compatible with RHEL and follows the same version numbering.

#8

to natural pilot:
thanks for trying to help, I know how to read a 404; I am simply stating that some directory that was available yesterday at the aforementioned location is not available today and that I am surprised by this. I usually do not mail a webmaster@ address as a first method of gaining insight; it is after all usually an email address to use when having technical problems related to the site as such, much less the content it hosts (imho).

to dragonbite:
I used the mono repository yesterday. I know this for sure because yum update worked; today, with the same repo it does not (I am aware of the Dag/RpmForge packages):

[rubin@marvel ~]$ sudo yum update
Loaded plugins: rhnplugin, security
grond                                                    |  951 B     00:00     
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Mono/RHEL_5/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: mono. Please verify its path and try again

I guess sending an email to webmaster@ won’t hurt, so I’ll try that and see what comes out of that!

Greets,

#9

I didn’t realize they had a Mono repository for Red Hat/ Fedora. Last I looked at their site (http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html) I didn’t see either of those listed so I thought the whole repository was gone already.

#10

rannyakuza wrote:
> to natural pilot:
> thanks for trying to help, I know how to read a 404; I am simply
> stating that some directory that was available yesterday at the
> aforementioned location is not available today and that I am surprised
> by this. I usually do not mail a webmaster@ address as a first method of
> gaining insight; it is after all usually an email address to use when
> having technical problems related to the site as such, much less the
> content it hosts (imho).

ha! you may be able to read but you are not listening: the person or
persons you need to talk with are NOT HERE…

get it?

here, we are USERS of openSUSE, NOT controllers of the Novell web sites…

i can’t say it more plainly…you can bitch here all day and nothing
is gonna happen…

you MUST contact thecontroller*of what is available in the repos
under http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/

so, give it a rest HERE, please…

now if you wish you could post a question (not a rant like you have
going here) in

http://forums.opensuse.org/forum-usage-support-information/

and maybe you can find a paid Novell person who can tell you the
exact name of the individual you need to write and bitch that what you
need is not where you are used to looking for it…

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#11

to natural pilot:
I really don’t understand why you’re getting so upset; The description of this forum reads:

“Looking For Something Other Than Support? If you are looking for manuals, books, repositories, hardware, software, etc. this is the place to see if someone can help you find it.”

So I thought it the most appropriate place to ask, next to the fact that downloads.opensuse.org and forums.opensuse.org are under the same domain.

You state the forums represent users of opensuse, not controllers of novell websites. From my point of view (as an outsider), given the fact that opensuse is a community supported operating system, given the fact that the repository that I was using was actually on the repository servers for opensuse, I would expect the mono repository for rhel5 to also be supported by a community within *.opensuse.org, much less a novel paid-person.

I’m going to search for answers elsewhere.

Thanks dragonbite and FeatherMonkey for the links + more constructive replies in this thread.

Greets,

#12

If you go to the Fedora forum, you’ll find the same thing about its connection to Red Hat. While there may be some developers floating around the vast majority are not going to be available in the forums to help and those that do often do not announce themselves as such.

Ubuntu is similar with their Canonical developers.

And it goes the same, most of the time, with other aspects of maintainers and such.

If you get an answer or anything, please follow up so myself and anybody else interested in what is to come of this will know.

Thanks.

#13

> I really don’t understand why you’re getting so upset

i am not upset…

> So I thought it the most appropriate place to ask, next to the fact
> that downloads.opensuse.org and forums.opensuse.org are under the same
> domain.

sure, it is OK that you asked here…

and, you got the answer here: we don’t control it–Novell does

> You state the forums represent users of opensuse, not controllers of
> novell websites. From my point of view (as an outsider), given the fact
> that opensuse is a community supported operating system, given the fact
> that the repository that I was using was actually on the repository
> servers for opensuse,

exactly: from you outsider and NOT understanding the relationship
between Novell and openSUSE you could easily think that we here in
these forum control the servers connected to via the address
opensuse.org…

but that is NOT the case…and, no matter how often you think we are
in control that will not make it so…

> I would expect the mono repository for rhel5 to
> also be supported by a community within *.opensuse.org, much less a
> novel paid-person.

ok, let me try to explain: Novell is in the business of making money,
they support the openSUSE community because we serve as a
‘playground’ or users willing to experiment with Linux…and, we find
LOTs of little bugs and work’em out…and ever couple of years or so
Novell packs up the code from openSUSE, cleans it up a lot and SELLS it…

part of their support of this “community” is providing the servers,
repos, this forum software and hard drive space etc etc etc

further: Novell is a Mono product which they either already do, or
hope to make money with…

last time i say it: we here, though supported by Novell have NO
control over what Novell puts on their servers to support Red Hat users…

ok?

> I’m going to search for answers elsewhere.

your answer will suddenly appear once you find the right Novell
guy…hint: his address is webmaster@opensuse.org or that should
lead to the right guy…

ok?

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#14

rannyakuza:
I also noticed that this repository disappeared recently. If you do locate an answer to this or find an equivalent repository can you please post it on this thread?

Thanks!

#15

Mono 1.9.2 -> Index of /repositories/home:/mindtouch/RHEL_5

Mono 2.0.1 -> Index of /repositories/home:/directhex/RHEL_5

@rannyakuza: the original repository was probably removed by one of the anti-Mono zealots in the Linux community.

@natural_pilot: you are not trying to help, you are trolling, it’s people like you who give Linux a bad name.

#16

Thanks for the links. Is this a permanent home for them, or temporary?

#17

> @natural_pilot: you are not trying to help, you are trolling, it’s
> people like you who give Linux a bad name.

thank you for your opinion…i value it…

the fact remains that had you not happened along he wouldn’t have had
an answer…but, IF he had asked the ‘webmaster’ i as told him five
days ago he could have…

we can wait as see if comes back to thank you…my bet is he got the
answer elsewhere…like from someone in Novell who knew the backstory…

got another opinion? i’ll write it down and read it often.

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#18

Since they’re in /home: I’m pretty sure they’re only temporary. >:( And unfortunately they don’t include mod_mono which I require. But for now they’re all we’ve got…

I’m going to install CentOS 5 and try my hand at creating packages for the latest Mono version. If I have any success I’ll post here again, wish me luck…

#19

Hi
Why not just create your own from the src rpms, I would imagine the src
rpms have a trigger RHEL builds, you just need your own home, create
links to the src rpms and enable the REHL repository…

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#20

Hi all,

I’m the original starter of the thread. I promised to follow up on this thread if I had any new information (ie. a response from webmaster@opensuse.org for example). I sent the following email to webmaster@opensuse.org on 18-06-2009:

Hi webmaster,

I’ve been gratefully using the Mono repository for RHEL 5 for the last year at:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Mono/RHEL_5/

Which worked marvelously, at least until yesterday. I just tried to update today and to my dismay discovered that it is simply not there anymore; Has anything changed that I should know about or does anyone know something about this?

Kind regards,

Rubin.

PS: My thread at the opensuse forums:
What happened to the RHEL 5 Mono repository? - openSUSE Forums

Unfortunately, I have not got a response. I didn’t really expect to either since webmaster@ is a virtual spam sync nowadays and I’d imagine a sincere email would easily get lost.

So, no extra information. I doubt I will find out anything about this in the near future so I decided to let it rest and build the src.rpm’s for my own repository in due time. On a side note, I’ve been playing around with Fedora 11 and noticed they started including Mono again apparently:

[rubin@marvel ~]$ rpm -qi mono-core-2.4-19.fc11.i586
Name        : mono-core                    Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version     : 2.4                               Vendor: Fedora Project
Release     : 19.fc11                       Build Date: Mon 20 Apr 2009 10:32:53 PM CEST
Install Date: Sat 20 Jun 2009 10:55:36 AM CEST      Build Host: x86-6.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Group       : Development/Languages         Source RPM: mono-2.4-19.fc11.src.rpm
Size        : 32186424                         License: MIT
Signature   : RSA/8, Fri 24 Apr 2009 04:44:53 AM CEST, Key ID 1dc5c758d22e77f2
Packager    : Fedora Project
URL         : http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
Summary     : The Mono CIL runtime, suitable for running .NET code
Description :
This package contains the core of the Mono runtime including its
Virtual Machine, Just-in-time compiler, C# compiler, security
tools and libraries (corlib, XML, System.Security, ZipLib,
I18N, Cairo and Mono.*).

I’ve not used Fedora since version 9 but this was a pleasant surprise to me…

Kind regards,

Rubin.