What happend with Java?

Hi!
I use OpenSUSE 11,4 64bits. Untill now Java(Sun/Oracle) has been working.
Now i read that Oracle Java no longer is distribute trough OpenSUSE-repositories. You must eighter install it manual, or use OpenJava with Icetee-plugin.

In Norway allmost all banks web-portals use Java-applet as login-client. After Sun(Oracle) Java no longer work, i have big problems login to my bank-accounts.
I downloaded the 64bits version from java.com but it says to use web-plugin, i need to install 32-bits.

So how do i solve this?

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:56:02 +0000, ronnys wrote:

> So how do i solve this?

Download the Java package from Oracle directly. Oracle apparently
changed their redistribution license, which means that it can’t be
included with the distribution any more (probably unless some conditions
are met - I don’t know all the details).

Alternatively, you can see if OpenJDK will work for you. It does seem to
be much more compatible than it used to be, and it is included.

Jim


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Hi!
I removed Sun/Oracle-Java and installed OpenJava and IcedTea-plugin.
In Mozilla Forefox it work, but in Opera Next Beta Bulid 1387(Latest) there is some issues. I think the problems is caused by Opera and not OpenJava.

Java.com -> Java-verify claims that i use en old Java; Version 4 Update 24, but it works.
I will test it i little more!

RS

If this indeed the case I really think Oracle lost their mind … not that they had ever had it to begin with … but this is simply too much ridiculous even for Oracle.

Regards.

Am 02.05.2012 19:06, schrieb keyb user:
> If this indeed the case I really think Oracle lost their mind … not
> that they had ever had it to begin with … but this is simply too much
> ridiculous even for Oracle.
>

http://jdk-distros.java.net/
it affects all linux distros since mid of last year.


PC: oS 12.1 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.2 | GeForce GT 420
Eee PC: oS 12.1 x86_64 | Atom 330@1.60GHz | 3GB | KDE 4.8.2 | nVidia ION
eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10

I use Openjdk and the Icedtea-plugin (in Firefox) for all the home - banking stuff with no problems at all … :slight_smile:
Runs better than Sunjava itself … rotfl!

If anyone wants or needs to run Oracle java then this method works quite well:
Oracle (Sun) Java for openSUSE and Fedora - Easy Linux tips project

From that guide:

for 64-bit you want Linux x64 (file name ends on x64.bin). Not Linux x64 RPM (file name ends on x64-rpm.bin), because this RPM is an unnecessary complication! DO NOT PICK THE RPM.

Does anyone know why it would be problematic picking the RPM? The install process is certainly much simpler (zypper in <file.rpm>), and it’s ostensibly also much quicker to upgrade Java (which is actually fairly important from a security standpoint). So if anyone can shed some light on why we would steer clear of RPMs i’d be interested in hearing it :slight_smile:

Two reasons:

  1. It’s an adapted version of a how-to I wrote earlier for Debian and Ubuntu, so it was less work for me to keep it for the bin only;
  2. One of the purposes of my how-to is to keep it very clear what’s happening “under the bonnet”. Total control, YOU do everything, every step is explained, nothing is automated.

That’s all. :slight_smile:

Hi,

Not that I had even bothered to look because I use Open JDK since OS my 11.3 install :slight_smile:
Anyway I wish they could maintain more support at least for a reason of maybe … maybe … some very big legacy SLES/Red Hat enterprise deployments out there.

Regards.

On 2012-05-03 07:46, oboedad55 wrote:
>
> If anyone wants or needs to run Oracle java then this method works quite
> well:
> ‘Oracle (Sun) Java for openSUSE and Fedora - Easy Linux tips project’
> (http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java-for-opensuse)

I have these currently installed:

java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u29-0.2.1.x86_64
mysql-connector-java-5.1.6-8.3.noarch
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u29-0.2.1.x86_64
java-ca-certificates-1-9.1.noarch
java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u29-0.2.1.x86_64
timezone-java-2012b-0.2.1.noarch

The version that the sun’s site offers me is jre-6u32 - is that the correct
one? The numbering is a bit confusing.

The other question is whether it replaces all of the above.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Yes, that’s the current one for version 6

The numbering is a bit confusing.
Version 6, update 32

I have these currently installed:

java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u29-0.2.1.x86_64
mysql-connector-java-5.1.6-8.3.noarch
java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u29-0.2.1.x86_64
java-ca-certificates-1-9.1.noarch
java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u29-0.2.1.x86_64
timezone-java-2012b-0.2.1.noarch

The other question is whether it replaces all of the above.
Update 32 should provide replacements for those packages listed in red above … (though, I’m not 100% sure on the alsa pack)

The other packages are, I believe, third party and not tied to a particular release (i.e. u29 vs u32)

For what i read yesterday, Oracle now considers version 6 as deprecated and advices to install version 7. Version 6u32 is still supported though and in the 6th line it is the most recent one. I did not install Oracle java currently. At the time I used Matlab from Mathworks that needed it. But they are as well known to hate deeply all openSource. So one should take this into account when choosing a statistical package. R-base may do better, or Oktave.

I have no idea what their considerations are, however, if that is true, then somebody better tell that to Oracle rotfl! :
Java SE 7 … You can see straight from the java download website, java.com: Java + You , that clicking the download button will provide you with access to 6u32.

I did not install Oracle java currently.
I use a mix of 1.7 openJDK and 6u32 … though primarily use the 1.7

At the time I used Matlab from Mathworks that needed it. But they are as well known to hate deeply all openSource. So one should take this into account when choosing a statistical package. R-base may do better, or Oktave.
I used to use Matlab quite a bit a number of years back. I was never aware of them having a hate on for OSS.

The numbering is a bit confusing.
Speaking about annoying version numbering, both version 6 and 7 of openJDK have always provided a version number that can throw some apps for a loop i.e. it might think you are using a much earlier version of java

Java SE Overview - at a Glance > “What’s New” section > see the “Updated Java 6 EOL date” blurb, which indicates that “the EOL date has been extended from July 2012 to November 2012, to allow some more time for the transition to JDK 7.”

Clicking on that “Updated Java 6 EOL date” link takes you to this blog post: Java SE Overview - at a Glance, in which we find a comment by one “Donald Smith, and I’m on the Java SE PM team” – “We won’t declare Java 6 to be EOL (meaning no more public updates) until Java 7 has been the default JRE on Java.com for at least 6 months.”

That means Java 7 is out but 6.x not dead, yet. Thanks for the update. (Still, I do not use it and would advice where possible openJDK. Or do you think you are going to remember to check every for seconds for a security hole update for java, since it is not in the repos anymore? If you do congrats, you are a very security aware person. So I allow myself to invite to vote for https://features.opensuse.org /312047 too if you haven’t done it yet. I am sure reading the content of it, you will agree.
And still thanks for digging this up.

W dniu 04.05.2012 o 15:06 keyb user <keyb_user@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
pisze:

>
> Hi,
>
>
> martin_helm;2459998 Wrote:
>> Am 02.05.2012 19:06, schrieb keyb user:
>>
>> ‘community collaboration with the DLJ — Java.net
>> (http://jdk-distros.java.net/)
>> it affects all linux distros since mid of last year.
>>
>> –
>> PC: oS 12.1 x86_64 | i7-2600@3.40GHz | 16GB | KDE 4.8.2 | GeForce GT
>> 420
>> Eee PC: oS 12.1 x86_64 | Atom 330@1.60GHz | 3GB | KDE 4.8.2 | nVidia
>> ION
>> eCAFE 800: oS 12.1 i586 | AMD Geode LX 800@500MHz | 512MB | KDE 3.5.10
>
> Not that I had even bothered to look because I use Open JDK since OS my
> 11.3 install :slight_smile:
> Anyway I wish they could maintain more support at least for a reason of
> maybe … maybe … some very big legacy SLES/Red Hat enterprise
> deployments out there.
>
> Regards.
>
>
I think they support unbreakable linux :slight_smile:


Best regards,
Greg