What does openSUSE have...

There are many threads on this subject … here is a link to another: The difference between OpenSuse vs. Fedora Core?

If only you could substantiate your statements…:wink:

Let’s not turn this into a “you prove it”, “no, you prove it” type of thread. This is a subjective thread with lots of opinions. Even if something could be substantiated, it would, more than likely, be an opinion. So let’s just have a civilized discussion.

Using Fedora (Gnome) and openSUSE (Gnome) (and Ubuntu Gnome, but they aren’t part of this thread it looks) I can say I don’t find too many differences between them.

  • **Yum **
    is pretty simple in the terminal, but I am still learning and getting used to Zypper.
  • With Gnome
    , openSUSE does more “tweaking” (e.g. with the slab menu) than Fedora who uses things as close to upstream versions if possible.
  • Fedora has all of the administrative and personal preferences
    scattered in their menus (again, like vanilla Gnome) while openSUSE puts them together in Yast and Control Center.
  • Fedora tries to use open source drivers
    for Nvidia & ATI (both supposedly with 3D support), as well as using OpenFWWF for wireless. So far Fedora is the only one that can use my Broadcom wireless out-of-the-box without having to download anything extra (or running # install_bcm43xx_firmware )
  • A big difference I see, again talking about Gnome, is the presense (openSUSE)/absence (Fedora) of **Mono **
    and Mono-built projects (Banshee, F-Spot, etc.)
  • Otherwise, in general I find Fedora’s hardware detection
    slightly ahead of openSUSE’s. Gnome-shell in Fedora takes longer to lock up on my than openSUSE’s for example. I haven’t tested to see if my webcam works in openSUSE any better than Fedora, but it seems to be one place where it flip-flops a lot.
  • Fedora doesn’t have as many **repositories **
    to choose from than openSUSE and I find openSUSE (including OBS) to have more off-wall programs I look for, than I find with Fedora.

disclaimer: I have more experience with Fedora than openSUSE, but that’s not saying much. :wink:

On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 00:06 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:

> cjcox, if we go with distrowatch, then openSUSE is running a
> consistent 4th place. Ubuntu is 1st and Fedora is 2nd. ‘DistroWatch.com:
> Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.’
> (http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity)

So… link clicks is what you’re talking about? Ok… Fedora got clicked
on more at distrowatch… you WIN!!!

I’m serious, you DO NOT want to talk facts… you’ve made your mind and
you DO NOT … WILL NOT listen anyhow… so I’m done.

You win… Fedora is AWESOME DUDE!!!

Forget I said anything…

Fedora ROCKS!! That’s why I’m posting this in the openSUSE forums!!!
Because it’s there for us Fedora GODS to post in… LONG LIVE Fedora…
openSUSE stinks!!!

On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 19:36 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:
> FizzyFanta;2202787 Wrote:
> > If only you could substantiate your statements…:wink:
> Let’s not turn this into a “you prove it”, “no, you prove it” type of
> thread. This is a subjective thread with lots of opinions. Even if
> something could be substantiated, it would, more than likely, be an
> opinion. So let’s just have a civilized discussion.

Civilized discussions work best in a GENERIC newsgroup… not one for
openSUSE users… agreed???

How come I could see it in the forum then, huh? Besides, what’s National Network Time Protocol got to do with it? :silly:

second, you have to have followed the link in his post that i replied
to: Bowen’s Beaches at Tourism Bowen and

I never follow links. You never know what danger lurks in those cookies.

third: you have to have scrolled down in that link, and

finally: you “get it”!

Hrumph! I thought you’d just explain it lol!

Bart

Dragonbite, that’s exactly what I was looking for in a reply! Thanks!

I prefer the KDE desktop, but I like a lot of Gnome apps. I have installed a lot of both on my openSUSE installation but tried to keep the Fedora one “pure” (??) just to force myself to learn a little more about Gnome.

Seeing as I have plenty of disk space (can you imagine?), I think I’ll just leave Fedora on the drive and brag about how technically competent I am. And, perhaps learn something.

montana suse user wrote:
>> you have to have followed the link in his post that i replied
>> to: ‘Bowen’s Beaches at Tourism Bowen’
>> (http://www.tourismbowen.com.au/cms/?page_id=10) and
>
> I never follow links. You never know what danger lurks in those
> cookies.

i would never use a system i was afraid would let me blunder into
‘danger’ just by a click…

is the world SO dangerous where you live? if so, MOVE to a place with
more safety…

>> third: you have to have scrolled down in that link, and
>>
>> finally: you “get it”!
>>
>
> Hrumph! I thought you’d just explain it lol!

if you are not willing to click and scroll then you will never know!


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]

Definitely use Fedora to learn Gnome, because Ubuntu changes so much downstream. Even openSUSE changes a lot in Gnome.

I found the best time for comparing was when I used Gnome-shell in both Fedora and openSUSE. Because Gnome-shell hasn’t been quite as “customized” as Gnome has. Although if you want to learn Gnome, this may not be the best way to go about it yet.

In my opinion SUSE has a better installer, better package management (1click and stuff) and the (currently) best KDE implementation (which is most important for KDE users like me).

Fedora is more innovative, they invented RPM (back when there was only Redhat) and package management in general, networkmanager, plymouth and a lot of other stuff - they also were 1st in using open 3D drivers and xorg 1.8 and are more up to date generally, because they have a shorter release cycle.

While all this is very important for the Linux community, it does not necessarily make Fedora the best distribution for everyday use, where you want things to “just work”. In that aspect something like SUSE, Mint (Ubuntu) or Mandriva is much better.