I was wondering how many of you use Suse with KDE? Well, I have been using Ubuntu with Gnome since 3 years now. So I though I’ll install KDE in Suse for a change.
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> I was wondering how many of you use Suse with KDE? Well, I have been
> using Ubuntu with Gnome since 3 years now. So I though I’ll install KDE
> in Suse for a change.
If you’re going to ‘try’ KDE please don’t jump in with 4.0.
Experience KDE users can appreciate what is happening with 4.0, but
to get your feet wet start with 3.5.9. I use 3.5.9 at work, but
I am using 4.0 at home where I can ‘play’ a little more.
I started with Mandrake + GNOME then quickly moved on to SUSE + KDE
Oops, sorry for posting this in the wrong area. I’ll look around the forums to discover relevant places methinks…
I have 3.5.9 installed. I’m thinking of installing 4 side-by-side.
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:46:04 +0000, LinuxIsInnovation wrote:
> I was wondering how many of you use Suse with KDE? Well, I have been
> using Ubuntu with Gnome since 3 years now. So I though I’ll install KDE
> in Suse for a change.
I don’t. I use GNOME. Clean, simple, doesn’t get in the way of my
work. 
Jim
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:52:39 +0000, GofBorg wrote:
>> I was wondering how many of you use Suse with KDE? Well, I have been
>> using Ubuntu with Gnome since 3 years now. So I though I’ll install KDE
>> in Suse for a change.
>
> If you’re going to ‘try’ KDE please don’t jump in with 4.0. Experience
> KDE users can appreciate what is happening with 4.0, but to get your
> feet wet start with 3.5.9. I use 3.5.9 at work, but I am using 4.0 at
> home where I can ‘play’ a little more.
Heh. I have been desperately craving the control of KDE 3.5.9 back on my
home desktop, but then I use my work OpenSUSE box a lot than my home one,
so KDE 4 is less painful at work.
I am fighting the urge to switch back to 3.5.9 in the hopes that I can
tough it out and 4 work like I want it to, but I am disappointed so far.
I am almost tempted to try defecting to Gnome since it can’t be any worse.
The eye-candy and effects and whatnot that has some excited, has me
frustrated and bored to tears. If I wanted eye-candy, I would be at the
nudie bar, or on some mountain top, but certainly not in front of my PC.
I need my PC to run efficiently, and right now the options to configure
KDE 4 effectively are mostly non-existent, and numerous “features” are
broken or annoying by design.
I am going to try to tough out the unsuitability of KDE 4 in the hopes
that either KDE will fix the bad parts, or I will learn how to work
around the defects and fix it myself. Barring that, it is probably back
to KDE 3.5.9 via Gnome.
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Link Porterfield
KDE 3.5.9.
> The eye-candy and effects and whatnot that has some excited, has me
> frustrated and bored to tears.
I agree. I rarely see my desktop so widgets are non starter.
Most of the eye candy is from Oxygen and Plasma widgets though you can do
some stuff with Kwin.
I find it funny that you think GNOME will be better since KDE4 looks
more like and behaves more like GNOME than ever before. That’s what
bothers me about it. However, I think as the admin tools develop around
KDE 4 the power will return.
Try ditching the screwed up panel menu for the traditional menu. You can
grab it from the widgets dialog and drop it on the panel.
For me that helps efficiency in KDE4 a lot.
It’s getting better, don’t lose hope yet. Until then 3.5.9 works like
it always did.
XFCE4 or fluxbox actually. If I use KDE, then it is KDE 4.0 right now. I hated 3.5 but I like 4.0…go figure. I have yet to update to the 4.1 beta packages.
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:43:20 +0000, GofBorg wrote:
>> The eye-candy and effects and whatnot that has some excited, has me
>> frustrated and bored to tears.
>
> I agree. I rarely see my desktop so widgets are non starter. Most of the
> eye candy is from Oxygen and Plasma widgets though you can do some stuff
> with Kwin.
>
> I find it funny that you think GNOME will be better since KDE4 looks
> more like and behaves more like GNOME than ever before. That’s what
> bothers me about it. However, I think as the admin tools develop around
> KDE 4 the power will return.
I don’t think GNOME will be better, I just figured that it would be worth
looking at on my way back to KDE 3.5 if that is the route I take.
> Try ditching the screwed up panel menu for the traditional menu. You can
> grab it from the widgets dialog and drop it on the panel. For me that
> helps efficiency in KDE4 a lot.
If you mean the KickOff menu that was introduced in OpenSuSE 10.3 (IIRC),
I actually prefer that to the older menu style. Now if I could only
reduce the size of the enormous icons at the top of each tab to about 25%
of their current size and get the menu back over on to monitor #1 where
the panel is, I would be making serious progress.
> It’s getting better, don’t lose hope yet. Until then 3.5.9 works like it
> always did.
I am still toughing it out for now.
–
Link Porterfield
Long-time KDE user here - just switched to GNOME…will stay here 
Love KDE 3, worried about KDE 4, can’t stand Gnome.
I do use some KDE 4 apps under KDE 3.
The choice of the OP is a good one. His idea is try KDE out may work out he’ll find out which is more important to him control or simplicity.
For noobs definitely do not try KDE4 yet you’ll get the wrong impression of linux!
> If you mean the KickOff menu that was introduced in OpenSuSE 10.3 (IIRC),
> I actually prefer that to the older menu style.
Blech…to each his own though.
I’ve used Ubuntu (and Edubuntu) with Gnome and it works alright.
I’ve fooled around with KDE in Kubuntu, Gentoo and openSUSE and so far I think openSUSE’s implementation is the best. That was 3.5.x though.
I tried Kubuntu KE 4.0 remix and that has me interested in KDE 4.0 over 3.5.
I can’t wait for a friend who is giving me another laptop hard drive so I can freely install openSUSE 11 w/KDE4 on it and keep my existing drives for specific purposes (computer club demonstration and Windows XP). I figure openSUSE is probably going to have the best KDE4.x going for a while.
I used to use KDE then swithed to GNOME about 4 years ago. I’ll never go back although I occasionally run a live disc to see what’s happening in the KDE world. Nothing to tempt so far
Started my linux days with Gnome and have tried kde here and there but just prefer Gnome. Personally, I like it’s simplicity. I also find that Gnome in openSUSE is a bit different experience than it is in Ubuntu. You might want to give it a shot as well.
kde4.1 beta all the way.
KDE 3.5.9
waiting for 4.usable