Well that could have gone better - Clean Install of 15.3

So did a fresh install of 15.3 - Installed fine no issues
After logging in was told had 31 updates except none would install as all conflicted with libreoffice - yet libre is bundled with the installation - I had to manually uninstall libreoffice - The patches all then installed.
Then got carried away and installed the sweet theme - no I have an unusable system :frowning: - All I have is a blank screen with a cursor and nothing else.

Ah, yep, happened to me on one of my machines. Odd thing is, I asked the installer to NOT install LibreOffice during the upgrade setup, but it installed it anyway. Along with a couple of other things I thought I had removed in the setups.

What installation type did you use? KDE? Gnome? XFCE? Basic/minimal? Server? Other? DVD? USB? NET?

What is the ā€œsweet themeā€? Where did it come from? How did you install it?

After youā€™ve waited a while with the cursor on the black screen, does Ctrl-Alt-F3 bring you a login prompt? If you are able to reach a command prompt, paste the resulting URL here from running:

susepaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log

If it was a default installation using BTRFS you can roll it back to before you added the sweet theme and installed those updates.

What are the exact messages if you try to update again, or add the theme again, after rolling back?

If and when you are able to get to a GUI, please paste here input and output using code tags from

inxi -SGa

after running

inxi -U

in an X terminal. (Output from inxi -U is unwanted/unneeded) If the best you can do is a fullscreen login shell, then at least provide alternative output from:

sudo lspci -nnk | grep -A3 VGA

See Here:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186593

Hi All - Iā€™m sorry to say I am giving up on Leap & Linux in general - I just cannot make it work - fix one thing and something else breaks - Iā€™m not learning a **** thing here just getting more and more frustrated .

So thanks to all those that have helped - It has been very much appreciated.

Iā€™m sad to see you give up so fast. This problem was not your fault, a known issue that was found too late to fix before release announcement. AFAIK, it has already been fixed.

Not sure how 15.3 is different from earlier releases but it seems to me there are quite some problems.

For new/basic users I think for now it is best to stick to 15.2.
Tried the portal, all there is is 15.3 and by clicking around I can not find 15.2. I think that is a bad thing at this stage.

Section 1.1 of the online release notes provides what looks to me like obvious clues. All 12 of my 15.3 installations are no significant trouble at all so far.

Donā€™t click around, go to the download page: https://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/ More Leap 15.3: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/554703-Testing-a-new-distribution-The-same-procedure-as-everytime

I did an update from 15.2 and was nervous about all the new repositoriesā€¦

But the update defied even my talent for making mistakes (as a non-geek). All my apps, all my settings, all my connectionsā€¦ everything booted up perfectly and KDE Plasma is looking more elegant than ever.

The main difference, apart from the repositories, is - that everythingā€™s faster!

:slight_smile:


We are seeking feedback regarding the release of openSUSE Leap 15.3, which was released to the general public on June 2, 2021.

What weā€™re looking is both positive and negative feedback related to the availability and individual experience with openSUSE Leap 15.3.

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Yes, I know how to find older releases, that is not the point, itā€™s my opinion that starters (like GOKIWI?) at this stage better start with Leap 15.2 but the website is not propagating that, I would say it is even not facilitating that.

For more capable users a switch is probably good.

Well as it turns out I decided that for better or for worse I would start again - everything new and fresh but Leap 15.2 - Guess what it all just installed and worked.

Then I started thinking that maybe its the age of hardware or at least the mix of old and new hardware ?

So my daily driver is an HPE ML30 Gen 9 - 16Gb ram (DDR4 PC4-19200 UDIMM 2 x 8), Western Digital 256Gb nvme ssd in a PCI riser card, Radeon R7 250 2Gb Graphics card, Intel Xeon 3.00Ghz processor, 5 x 500Gb SATA in a raid array (storage), then what ever chipset that uses.

The issues with 15.3

Installed fine and using KDE Plasma - base build no issues
Updates conflicting with LibreOffice - Uninstalled LibreOffice
Updates conflicting with other files - too many to list
Installed the Sweet theme via the install additional themes option in System Settings - blank screen with cursor and nothing could return a login screen - oddly after powering off over night I got a login prompt but could not remove the them but was able to do a custom setup that worked reasonably well
Installed patterns dhcp and dns server - Installed fine but could not start either no matter what I tried
Tried configuring both but got an error stating the file could not be saved
Tried to install LibreOffice and got conflicts - It was at this point I decided enough was enough.

However in hindsight my reaction to my dhcp/dns issues in 15.2 may have been a tad hasty.

Regards

That is a little scary thought. I have been sticking to clean fresh installs till now. This time I was wondering if an upgrade would be a better idea. A fresh install entails setting up all the extras one has added and changes made. For example FreeCAD and LibreCAD, changing multimedia to Packman repo, problem with Eekboard files for Devnagri scripts and a number of other small settings have to be processed again. And I have my working data files on a separate partition which is mounted independently. So my worry is about the applications only. I can unmount this partition, upgrade and mount it again. Any suggestions or remarks will be appreciated.

Your statement that the problem has been fixed is a little vague. Was the problem in the installer? I was going through a dry run and got a message that the installer has been updated. If that was the fix it is a comforting message.

PrakashC

You can still find it here http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.2/iso/

The problem is not that I can not find the 15.2 images (I could, check the original message), the problem is that starters/inexperienced users at day 1 are directed to 15.3 and at the same time 15.2 in that same context.

I think that for the first few weeks, both 15.2 and 15.3 should be listed on the website. 15.2 as the stable choice and 15.3 as the new release.
After the ā€œfirst weekā€ problems of 15.3 are ironed out (which takes 2ā€¦3 weeks?), 15.2 should be removed.

Users on this forum are typically not starters, but imagine you being a starter, would it be, up till now, be a better choice to go for 15.3 then for 15.2?
Would be interested to know what others think of this.

Glad you tried and nice to see that did work out.

Then I started thinking that maybe its the age of hardware or at least the mix of old and new hardware ?

So my daily driver is an HPE ML30 Gen 9 - 16Gb ram (DDR4 PC4-19200 UDIMM 2 x 8), Western Digital 256Gb nvme ssd in a PCI riser card, Radeon R7 250 2Gb Graphics card, Intel Xeon 3.00Ghz processor, 5 x 500Gb SATA in a raid array (storage), then what ever chipset that uses.

The issues with 15.3

Installed fine and using KDE Plasma - base build no issues
Updates conflicting with LibreOffice - Uninstalled LibreOffice
Updates conflicting with other files - too many to list
Installed the Sweet theme via the install additional themes option in System Settings - blank screen with cursor and nothing could return a login screen - oddly after powering off over night I got a login prompt but could not remove the them but was able to do a custom setup that worked reasonably well
Installed patterns dhcp and dns server - Installed fine but could not start either no matter what I tried
Tried configuring both but got an error stating the file could not be saved
Tried to install LibreOffice and got conflicts - It was at this point I decided enough was enough.

Your hardware does not look outlandish, as 15.2 shows it is also no problem apart from the Radeon card.

For sure those LibreOffice problems is what I call ā€œfirst weekā€ problems.
dhcp and dns servers are used less so it could take some more time to get things stable.