Weird shutdown message

Hello, I’m running openSUSE 42.1 Leap with all the latest updates. The OS runs fine, no problems there at all.
When I shutdown though I get a weird message on a black screen for about 15 seconds then it shuts off, the message reads Hint Num Lock off then under that there is a tty login_, I tried to login to see if was a way to login but it accepted no text input. It just hangs there for a while then shuts down.

Is this a known glitch? Is there a way to get rid of it?
Is it a problem that my OS is not configured properly?

I came from Linux Mint a few months ago after they let my info into the wild from their message boards. I didn’t think the Mint team took security serious at all, to the point where they thought they were immune to hacks. So after researching I picked openSUSE 42.1, which I have been very happy with. This is the only linux OS I have installed in 5 years where absolutely everything worked. Other than verifying and downloading the nvidia repositories , then the driver. Sound , wireless keyboard, usb devices, Android phones, tablets, printers, everything just works. I also love the sound and sane security steps SUSE takes. None of us are infallible to a hack.

i just wish I could find out about the shutdown glitch, if it is one.

Thanks.

PS, I’m using a legacy BIOS. Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P if that matters or helps in solving this problem, also running Plasma 5 KDE for my desktop

Here is the exact wording on the black screen:

Welcome to openSUSE 42.1 tty1 Kernel 4.1.15-8-default
Hint: Num lock off
tty login_

Is there any way to get the system to just shutdown without this screen popping up?

IIMHO it s not something popping up. It is just the console that shows between the stopping of X and the showing of the boot splash (now called the shutdown fllash?).

hcvv

Thank You for your response. I was starting to think the same thing. I was wondering if anyone else came across the same thing. It could be that it is logging me out of a tty. Which we all run on top of while in GUI mode, right? I’ll wait to see if anyone else has any explanation, but yours sounds totally plausible.

Aside from that this is the most intelligent linux distro I ever used. I’m going to build a new gaming box with a new eufi bios motherboard with a new cpu. Although this OS runs just fine on my core2quad, & a GTX 650 GPU, , I can get much better gaming out of a newer rig.

Yes, I see that. I have never worried about it. I agree that you are just seeing the login screen for a tty session.

Normally, that should be hidden behind the plymouth splash screen. If you hit ESC, that gets to the tty screen. But occasionally the timing is off and you see that screen before plymouth shows. I think I always see the screen on a box using the Nvidia drivers, but I rarely see in on a box with Intel graphics.

Thanks nrickert, that makes a lot of sense being that I am using nvidia drivers and GPU.

Man I’m so jaded from the LM website, any time you asked a question there that showed you weren’t a pro it became open season on people. This website is actually polite and helpful to those learning on there own.

I always try to offer insight and guidance to anyone I am able to help.

Thanks again.

I am not sure if I understand you here and thus I am not sure if you understand the system :wink:

When X starts, it creates seven virtual (or logical, whatever you want to call them) “screens” on the monitor. The first shows the system console (which shows the last lines of the boot sequence and will have a CLI login ready for you), the next five also have CLI login at the ready and on the seventh a Display Manager will be started (which will then show a GUI login). More of those GUI logins at eight, etc. can be created by using “change user” buttons from different places in the GUI.

You can switch between them with the Ctrl-Alt-F(1-7 and more).

So it is not the case that you are always loged in in one of those CLI screens when running a GUI session. You have to explicitly do a login there (when wanted).

HCVV, I just learned a valuable lesson in linux! I was not aware of that I started on Macs, over 20 years ago MacOS 7.5 (I think) on a 6400, then a G-3 & various imacs and emacs before getting tired of taking them apart & replacing cheap hardware, then onto the new OSX, which you already know but for the help of other users the GUI runs on top of unix. I was under the impression that when logged into a gui session in linux I was actually logged into a tty.

Thank you for having the patience and setting me straight on that. I verified your explanation by doing a ctrl,alt F1,while logged into a gui session and sure enough a command line interface popped up where I was able to log in as either root, or my username, with the correct password , then just exiting out. Now I have another question that also may be helpful to other users new to linux, or not new to linux and just don’t quite yet understand it properly (me) :), is there a way for me to get out of the tty with out rebooting back into the GUI? Every time I exited out it just gave me a new command prompt, the only way to get back to a GUI was to log in as root and reboot, (that I know of):wink:

BTW knowing how to get into a tty is extremely helpful when running into problems. Thank You for that info!

Sincerely,
frankensuse

Ctrl-Alt-F7 will take you back to logical screen 7 where your GUI session is running.
BTW, no need to logout of the CLI at screen 1 first. You can hop back and forward as you like.

Sorry, I thought that would be clear from my post above.

BTW, I warn for loging in as root even in the CLI. Only do so when realy needed. And even then it is good practise to first login with a normal user and then use

su -

to login as root. I know that on the real console it is not that critical because it is not going over the network, but good practices sould be used automatic.
Only when login from the CLI on the console i impossible (when you havea realy borked system), you may (in fact: must) login directly as root.

OK, Thanks. that worked, just verified it. Also will make it a point in the future to not log in as root unless necessary on a tty. And yes I always su into root under the terminal when I need to. Which is very rarely. Usually when I want to install something from zypper I just sudo the install.

Thanks again!

sudo or su is basicaly the same.

Read:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB%3ALogin_as_root