This is what i want to speak out…ok, we here are all Linuxusers, we don’t need MS windows…
Well, but what we not have here is a easy guide how to bring a Linux-router to work without windows, without windows-based software…
Only with our openSUSE-Computers, Routers (on which it is possible to install a Linux-router-distro) and the internet to get it…
I don’t know what other user think about it, but i really miss something here…
What do you want that’s not provided by the router software pages like those for ddwrt or openwrt? Routers work with all OSes and the interface is usually via a web page. What do you see that’s Linux specific you need to know about routers?
> what we not have here is a easy guide how to bring a
> Linux-router to work without windows, without windows-based software…
i added a router without using any Redmond software…
i did have to read the router docs to learn how to point a browser
towards the router, and then how to set it up the way i wanted…but
that was pretty easy (load the .pdf on the CD, and turn a few pages)…
since i didn’t run any Redmond software on the CD, i can only guess
it would have popped up a “wizzard” to read for me, and hold my hand
while i configured the router…
but, being able to read gives me the advantage on not having to depend
on Redmond…
you can try your hand a building a how-to for the forums
unreviewed-how-faq, but i don’t know how you will make it fit ALL the
different routers out there, because as far as i know they likely use
a variety of addresses to access, and of course a wide variety of
setup options and etc…
wait…here is the easy how to:
insert the router CD
open konqueror (etc) and find/open/read the router documents
install and setup using the documents to find what address to use
(in a browser) to access the router, its default password, how to
change password and other setup options
easy!! ymmv…
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natural_pilot
http://kamikaze.openwrt.org/docs/openwrt.html
How is here described how to install openwrt on a Router?? I don t see anything…
How to bring the firmware on the Router…via my computer…?
What i mean, it is not step by step…for a linux-frak with years of linux experience it is easy…but for the normal user it isn’t
Look here in the forum, most of user have problems to find and install wireless drivers, much less to install and configurate a Router…
There is no universal method, it depends on the model of the router. Some can be flashed from the update page on the web interface. Some require setting up a TFTP server, and hitting the return key at just the right time in the reset sequence. Some extreme cases you may even have to open up the router and use a soldering iron to make some hardware modifications. Some routers just cannot be flashed, not enough is known about the hardware to devise a method. All this is explained at the sites of the WRT software.
Flashing a router is not recommended for newbies. Setting up a Linux wireless driver, the worst that can happen is it won’t work. Flashing firmware on a router can turn it into a brick.
And to be honest, you would have to be an expert to want to modify the firmware, because for most users the factory firmware works ok. Sometimes you will get better quality of software putting WRT on it, or get more features (e.g. OpenVPN, control over power output), sometimes it won’t make any difference to the user.
Try following the WRT wiki instructions for flashing your router and you’ll understand what I mean.
I have a linksys-g router (and to make the singnal better a special linksys accespoint; my question is only about the first-> the wireless-router)…this router works for a configuration (for example changing the password) browser-based…
A) Well, but for this it is needed (1) i wired connection to the router, (2) to install the applications from the cd…and this is my problem…the applications are only for windows…
Browser-based-konfiguration sounds very easy, on the first look…but what now??
B) Second way…Buy a Open Source router on which it is possible to install a free source and this is really difficult…i was on one or two web pages (for example openwrt) to find out how it works, what i have to do…and already i have NO IDEA how it works…no IDEA what to install where…and i m not a linux-newbi any more…what will a newbi think about when he spend a lot of time to get openSUSE on his Hardware to work and in future need a router…he can buy a Router and let it without password…and pay after a lot of money, when someone uses his wireless for illegal down/uploading or ran back to windows…
This is really bad…and we need a resolution for this problem…and i need a resolution sometime in future how to get my next router to work! Now i have a “garnd-mother-nootebook with windows xp in my cellar for some problems”…but sorry, this can’t be serious the resolution!
I have a linksys-g router (and to make the singnal better a special linksys accespoint; my question is only about the first-> the wireless-router)…this router works for a configuration (for example changing the password) browser-based…
A) Well, but for this it is needed (1) i wired connection to the router, (2) to install the applications from the cd…and this is my problem…the applications are only for windows…
You can ignore the Windows based applications they give you on CD. Those may make setup a bit easier with Windows, but are not essential. It is always a good idea to change the settings only from a wired connection, not a wireless connection.
B) Second way…Buy a Open Source router on which it is possible to install a free source and this is really difficult…i was on one or two web pages (for example openwrt) to find out how it works, what i have to do…and already i have NO IDEA how it works…no IDEA what to install where…and i m not a linux-newbi any more
Maybe you are not a Linux newbie but you are a WRT newbie. If you don’t know how to do it, they have forums to help you. This has nothing to do with openSUSE, or Linux, except that the embedded software is Linux based.
There is no royal road to understanding WRT, you just have to work your way through the instructions. That is the resolution unfortunately.
But how?? I read in this forum a lot of “it works” and “i just made it without windows, its easy” and exactly for some questions we need a wiki here in the forum or a gide or something like that…
Through the web interface. All good routers offer this. You have to at least read enough of the instruction manual to find out what address the router sets for itself. Usually it’s something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1. Or do a web search for that model.
Its 192.168.1.1…and now?
(edit) hey…that works! I tip it in the browser and it works!
Caleb IX wrote:
> Its 192.168.1.1…and now?
put that in your browser url address window and press enter…
the next thing you should see is your router asking for the user
ID and password (until you have changed it, you MUST get that from the
user manual)…leave the user manual OPEN, you are gonna need it!!
enter that ID/password and then the very next thing you need to do
is CHANGE both the user ID and password (don’t know how? THAT is the
reason i said to leave the manual open, because neither do it–it is
different with each manufacture and version)…
USE a strong password AND user ID (make it REAL hard to crack, like do
not just use a simple word…there are plenty of articles on “strong
passwords” on the net…i usually pick 15 or so characters from
someplace like this: https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm)
REMEMBER your new password/ID, without it you can’t get back in!!
continue to setup whatever else you need to tend to…READ the
manual…
easy, no Redmond required.
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natural_pilot
Thank you now i have it…i know how it works!
Number one is a strong password like.
Examples:
samson
goliath
hercules
atlas
superman
incrediblehulk
and many more
Sorry folks I am craving and can’t help it.
> Thank you now i have it…i know how it works!
GREAT!
isn’t it wonderful to find one more way to loosen yourself from
Redmond’s strong-arm grasp…
i run NO M$ software here…run nothing in WINE (except, i understand
that Google Earth actually runs in a specialized adaption of
WINE)…don’t need a VM to launch any non-native Linux
application…and, you can too…
BUT, you have to be willing to read, think and exercise some level of
patience and perseverance…
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natural_pilot
> Sorry folks I am craving and can’t help it.
go to your room, close the door and do not come out until i tell you
you can!
those are strong entities, NOT strong passwords…
but, you knew that, of course
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natural_pilot
A few months ago I change from tel to cable.The person install my internet cable told me,if you like to use second computer/laptop u need a router.
I went to the store look for a router,I told my self thank you and went home.
I got 5 years old router and 2 years old router.I pick 2 years old router turn on my router and I have no problem with Suse and WinXp on desk/lap computer.
Cheers
Mike