Want to run KDE3, unable to get rid of SDDM/KDE5

[mrmazda]

@LoneCrusader

The main reason I originally preferred the OpenSUSE version of KDE3 to Trinity however still remains - Trinity has no OpenSUSE branding and I don’t know how to “port” the KDE3 branding to Trinity or whether it is even possible to do so. This is a purely cosmetic issue, but I do prefer my setups to have some “OS uniqueness” about them.

YaST makes openSUSE unique regardless of DE. ISTR discussion of porting SUSE look and feel to TDE on one of the TDE mailing lists not too long ago. Maybe asking on its -devel list you could acquire enough instruction to achieve what you desire?

I have KDE3 and Trinity each installed on multiple 42.1 and 42.2 PCs. I’ve never had a SDDM problem using either KDE3 or TDE, possibly because I don’t let SDDM install in the first place. When I install Plasma I install KDM, not SDDM, neither LightDM nor GDM. I do a minimal X Leap install, which installs IceWM and little else. Once initial installation is done, I add either KDE3 or TDE repos and install minimal one of those or Plasma with zypper. I use a text editor to put tdm, kdm3 or kdm in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager and tde, startkde or kde-plasma in /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager.

I like Trinity’s look and feel. The only thing I like better about KDE3 is Trinity’s menus have fewer branches. I like that TDM config files live where config files belong in /etc/ rather than only buried in /opt/. Other than the menu branches and 965242 – kdesktop, kded and kicker crash every initial session start post-boot I find little reason to prefer either over the other. On my 24/7 system I’m still using KDE3 on 42.1.

I wonder if installing no more than IceWM in the first place makes a difference in look and feel of TDM?

[linuxcpa]

Offending Settings in OpenSuSE Leap Causing Plasmashell to Interfere With KDE 3 Functionality
Hi there,

Quick solution, as root:

mkdir /etc/xdg/****

mv /etc/xdg/plasmashell.desktop /etc/xdg/****

BIG CAVEAT - this will break the Plasma 5 desktop

**Question: Is there a way to disable these startup scripts without removing the offending file?

Also don’t forget to:

[size=]/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager change to DISPLAYMANAGER=“kdm3”

/etc/sysconfig/windowmanager change to DEFAULT_WM=“kde”

[/size]

I have read some other threads in which there are some complaints about performance. So these are the other “services” that autostart as a result of SuSE using XDM, at least on my desktop: A user may want to remove some of these - BUT SOME MAY BE CRITICAL:

at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop
baloo_file.desktop
caribou-autostart.desktop
deja-dup-monitor.desktop
evolution-alarm-notify.desktop
fcitx-autostart.desktop
gmixer-trayicon.desktop
gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop
gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop
gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop
gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop
gnome-settings-daemon.desktop
gnome-software-service.desktop
gnome-user-share-obexpush.desktop
gsettings-data-convert.desktop
hplip-systray.desktop
ibus-autostart.desktop
kmix_autostart.desktop
krunner.desktop
nautilus-autostart.desktop
nm-applet.desktop
notification-daemon-autostart.desktop
orca-autostart.desktop
kde.klipper.desktop
polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop
polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1.desktop
print-applet.desktop
pulseaudio.desktop
restore_kmix_volumes.desktop
tracker-extract.desktop
tracker-miner-apps.desktop
tracker-miner-fs.desktop
tracker-miner-user-guides.desktop
tracker-store.desktop
user-dirs-update-gtk.desktop
xembedsniproxy.desktop
zeitgeist-datahub.desktop

Long version:

I recently upgraded my OpenSuSE 13.1 KDE3 desktop to OpenSuSE Leap.

I followed all the advice here:

/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager change to DISPLAYMANAGER=“kdm3”

/etc/sysconfig/windowmanager change to DEFAULT_WM=“kde”

When I was finished, I found that KDE Plasma wanted to display the taskbar within my running KDE 3 session. I had two taskbars at the bottom of my desktop. I further found that none of my icons worked – no program would launch by clicking on the icon on my desktop.

Furthermore, upon right clicking on the KDE 3 desktop, I had some plasma options display and I was only able to run programs from there.

I opened up konsole and ran lsof and in the output I could see “plasmashell --shut-up” was running.

I then ran a grep in /etc to find the offensive startup script:

cd /etc
grep -r plasmashell
Output below:
xdg/autostart/plasmashell.desktop:Exec=plasmashell --shut-up
xdg/autostart/plasmashell.desktop:X-DBUS-ServiceName=org.kde.plasmashell

which plasmashell
Output below:
/usr/bin/plasmashell

After I moved this script to /etc/xdg/****, I could use KDE 3 just like the old days - and without a problem.

James Leone

**
Note I also tried to post this solution to the opensuse-kde3 mailing list, but it was bounced, I guess, because I used the word “****” - I guess Linus Torvalds would have trouble posting to this list at times if he wanted to.

[hal8000]

Did you get KDE3 working LoneCrusader?

Your original screenshot showed the kde3 panel with a grey screen underneath a kde5/plasma toolbar.

I installed the kde3 libraries from the earlier post on Leap 42.2, im still running SDDM as the desfault display manger
and kde3 appears to work ok.
I posted a screenshot on imgmur

http://imgur.com/a/U2lZM

The grey screen may be related to a graphics driver, but you can try a right click and configure desktop in kde3.
To get rid of the kde plasma toolbar you right click, themn options and remove.

At the moment I have 2 desktop choices kde3 and kde plasma.