Video players & 3D renders, slow or broken when desktop compositing is disabled (ATI driver bug)

MirceaKitsune · January 15, 2013, 8:47pm

This is an annoying issue I’m experiencing in a few programs since I moved to openSUSE. When desktop compositing is disabled, certain window components (such as video players and 3D views) are no longer rendered or updated properly. Either the content is updated very slowly and results in slow frame rates, or not refreshed properly causing “views to infinity” (dragging windows in front of them to leave trails behind). So far I only have some examples that are part of this issue:

In Firefox, Youtube videos play very slowly and at a horrible frame rate when desktop effects are off. However, other video players on websites different than Youtube don’t have this problem, nor other flash content I saw.
The 2D RPG engine OHRRPGCE (a game engine written in freebasic) also runs horribly slow if desktop effects are turned off.
The Quake map editor gtkRadiant (I use a fork based on the project) does not render its 3D viewports any more when desktop compositing is off. Here is a screenshot of me dragging my IRC window in front of it while the issue happens… other things should normally be shown where you can see the trails (like the white / gray grid which you can still see some pieces of):

http://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/images/4rlnqbv3mvh5sth77bz_thumb.png](http://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/viewer.php?file=4rlnqbv3mvh5sth77bz.png)

I could probably find more examples, but those are the ones I noticed so far. At the same time there are windowed renders that don’t have this problem… such as MineCraft which works faster when desktop compositing is off.

Upon some investigation, I noticed this is most likely a problem with the proprietary ATI driver. I use the driver from the geeko repository, since the open-source radeon one doesn’t run 3D games nearly at all at this day. But I did a test with the FOSS radeon driver and the issue stopped happening in Radiant at least. So it feels like a problem between the ATI driver and Kwin… but why does disabling desktop compositing cause it? I almost always keep desktop compositing on so it doesn’t harm me that much… but it’s still an issue I’d like to fix. Anyone else getting this and knows how to fix it?

maden · January 23, 2013, 4:20am

Experiencing the same issue with fglrx 9.012 driver. I’m using a ATI 6850HD with Catalyst 13.1 64 bit, Open Suse 12.2.
I used to have a very similar issue when using Xinerama mode in my Xorg file, but no more since I have gotten rid of it.
I also have very bad rendering issues with most things. Youtube videos are terrible to watch, games I can play just fine on windows I cannot run so well with this driver. I also tried with the previous version of Catalyst which was 12.* something, but the issues persist on 13.1.

oldcpu · January 23, 2013, 7:53am

When using the proprietary ATI driver, there is an aticonfig app that one can run to tune the driver. I assume you ran that app and explored the various options for tuning ?

I don’t have the proprietary ATI driver running on any of my PCs at present time, so I can offer no specific advice.

MirceaKitsune · January 23, 2013, 10:43am

Like I said, I need the fglrx driver until the open-source radeon one can run all games as acceptably. I heard that driver will be a lot better in openSUSE 12.3 so I’m waiting for that.

I haven’t used aticonfig until now, only installing the fglrx driver package. Anyone got an idea which setting there I should look for and modify (in case it’s safe)?

keellambert · January 23, 2013, 12:57pm

You have a better graphics card than I have access to, but

what kernel are you using?
please post output of cmd

rpm -qa | grep kernel

whats your output of cmds shown below?
you should be able to see what is missing.

mine are :-

<2013Jan23><12:42><~>  fglrxinfo
display: :0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11653 Compatibility Profile Context

----------------- and ------------------

<2013Jan23><12:42><~>  glxinfo
name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, 
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGIS_multisample, 
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, 
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
    GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, 
    GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, 
    GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, 
    GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_AMD_gpu_association
GLX version: 1.4
GLX extensions:
    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, 
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
    GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, 
    GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
OpenGL version string: 3.3.11653 Compatibility Profile Context
OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_AMDX_debug_output, GL_AMD_conservative_depth, GL_AMD_debug_output, 
    GL_AMD_depth_clamp_separate, GL_AMD_draw_buffers_blend, 
    GL_AMD_name_gen_delete, GL_AMD_performance_monitor, GL_AMD_pinned_memory, 
    GL_AMD_sample_positions, GL_AMD_shader_stencil_export, 
    GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility, GL_ARB_base_instance, 
    GL_ARB_blend_func_extended, GL_ARB_color_buffer_float, 
    GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage, GL_ARB_conservative_depth, 
    GL_ARB_copy_buffer, GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float, GL_ARB_depth_clamp, 
    GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend, 
    GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex, GL_ARB_draw_instanced, 
    GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location, GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions, 
    GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, 
    GL_ARB_fragment_shader, GL_ARB_framebuffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GL_ARB_geometry_shader4, 
    GL_ARB_get_program_binary, GL_ARB_half_float_pixel, 
    GL_ARB_half_float_vertex, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_instanced_arrays, 
    GL_ARB_internalformat_query, GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment, 
    GL_ARB_map_buffer_range, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, 
    GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_occlusion_query2, 
    GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, 
    GL_ARB_provoking_vertex, GL_ARB_sampler_objects, GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map, 
    GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding, 
    GL_ARB_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shader_precision, 
    GL_ARB_shader_stencil_export, GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod, 
    GL_ARB_shading_language_100, GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack, 
    GL_ARB_shading_language_packing, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, 
    GL_ARB_sync, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_texture_buffer_object_rgb32, GL_ARB_texture_compression, 
    GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_ARB_texture_float, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, 
    GL_ARB_texture_multisample, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, 
    GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_texture_rg, GL_ARB_texture_rgb10_a2ui, 
    GL_ARB_texture_snorm, GL_ARB_texture_storage, GL_ARB_timer_query, 
    GL_ARB_transform_feedback2, GL_ARB_transform_feedback3, 
    GL_ARB_transform_feedback_instanced, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, 
    GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_array_object, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_vertex_shader, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_type_2_10_10_10_rev, GL_ARB_viewport_array, 
    GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, 
    GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_meminfo, GL_ATI_separate_stencil, 
    GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, 
    GL_ATI_texture_float, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_EXT_abgr, 
    GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_bindable_uniform, GL_EXT_blend_color, 
    GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, 
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, 
    GL_EXT_copy_buffer, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_direct_state_access, 
    GL_EXT_draw_buffers2, GL_EXT_draw_instanced, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, 
    GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit, GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample, 
    GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, 
    GL_EXT_geometry_shader4, GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters, 
    GL_EXT_gpu_shader4, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, 
    GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil, GL_EXT_packed_float, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, 
    GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object, GL_EXT_point_parameters, 
    GL_EXT_provoking_vertex, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, 
    GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, 
    GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_texture3D, 
    GL_EXT_texture_array, GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object, 
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc, GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc, 
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, 
    GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, 
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_integer, 
    GL_EXT_texture_lod, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, 
    GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB, 
    GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent, GL_EXT_texture_snorm, 
    GL_EXT_texture_storage, GL_EXT_texture_swizzle, GL_EXT_timer_query, 
    GL_EXT_transform_feedback, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, 
    GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_KTX_buffer_region, GL_NV_blend_square, 
    GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color, GL_NV_copy_image, 
    GL_NV_explicit_multisample, GL_NV_float_buffer, GL_NV_half_float, 
    GL_NV_primitive_restart, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_barrier, 
    GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, 
    GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays, GL_WIN_swap_hint, WGL_EXT_swap_control

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keellambert · January 23, 2013, 12:58pm

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oldcpu · January 23, 2013, 6:28pm

If it were me, I would run aticonfig, record the PRECISE settings that I had in place currently, and then one setting at a time start exploring the different settings, being certain to restore each setting back to the start/default value after I tested the setting.

MirceaKitsune · January 23, 2013, 7:53pm

keellambert:

You have a better graphics card than I have access to, but

what kernel are you using?
please post output of cmd
rpm -qa | grep kernel
whats your output of cmds shown below?
you should be able to see what is missing.

mine are :-

I have the latest Kernel in the openSUSE 12.2 repository, which seems to be 3.4.11-2.16.1. As for the commands:

mircea@linux-qz0r:~> rpm -qa | grep kernel
kernel-default-devel-3.4.11-2.16.1.x86_64
kernel-source-3.4.11-2.16.1.noarch
kernel-desktop-devel-3.4.11-2.16.1.x86_64
kernel-firmware-20120719git-2.9.1.noarch
kernel-syms-3.4.11-2.16.1.x86_64
kernel-devel-3.4.11-2.16.1.noarch
kernel-desktop-3.4.11-2.16.1.x86_64
kernel-xen-devel-3.4.11-2.16.1.x86_64

mircea@linux-qz0r:~> fglrxinfo
display: :0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series 
OpenGL version string: 4.2.11931 Compatibility Profile Context

Pastebin for the last one cuz the forum limits suck: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pBj89qaZ

keellambert · January 24, 2013, 1:12am

@MirceaKitsune

Your kernel install is consistent, so no problems expected there.

Your glxinfo output also looks ok. A few more entries than mine
but consistent with having compositing enabled and a superior graphics card.

As the install of the amd driver install appears to be correct,
I can only suggest you follow oldcpu’s advice.

Cheers