Video driver BS

I am extremely disappointed in this 11.3 release.

openSUSE had a system that worked. I never had a major problem with the Nvidea video drivers before this release. When I did have a problem with the drivers (usually because Nvidia screwed up) I was able to easily use “The hard way” to install the drivers and all was good. But now the system is so screwed up that the drivers wont install. I can’t find a working Saxx2 anywhere. nvidia-settings won’t install from rpm. What the hell is going on? This release should have been held up until this garbage was fixed. Novvaeu (sp?) won’t work for some of the programs I want to run.

I probably changed so much stuff that I bet my system won’t boot now. Oh and what happened to the lack of repair software on the install disk? For two versions now the only repair option we have had is the command line. That’s great if you use those tools on a regular or semi regular basis. What about the other people?

On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 18:56 +0000, juntunen wrote:
> I am extremely disappointed in this 11.3 release.
>
> openSUSE had a system that worked. I never had a major problem with
> the Nvidea video drivers before this release. When I did have a problem
> with the drivers (usually because Nvidia screwed up) I was able to
> easily use “The hard way” to install the drivers and all was good. But
> now the system is so screwed up that the drivers wont install. I can’t
> find a working Saxx2 anywhere. nvidia-settings won’t install from rpm.

Well… while I too would like to place some blame at lack of sax2,
there’s some blame that has to go to the Xorg folks who believe that
their autodetection makes such tools obsolete (and obviously that is
simply not true at all).

> What the hell is going on? This release should have been held up until
> this garbage was fixed. Novvaeu (sp?) won’t work for some of the
> programs I want to run.

Like any PROPRIETARY set of drivers, the ability to compile and use is
controlled strictly by the vendor of the drivers and NOT by openSUSE or
any other Linux distro.

Lesson to learn, proprietary drivers are evil.

Is there a good 3D soln for a Linux distro today? Possibly the answer
to this is “no”, if you need a lot of power/flexibility.

>
> I probably changed so much stuff that I bet my system won’t boot now.
> Oh and what happened to the lack of repair software on the install disk?
> For two versions now the only repair option we have had is the command
> line. That’s great if you use those tools on a regular or semi regular
> basis. What about the other people?

The good news is that you can always go back to 11.2.

That’s what I usually do when something like this happens.
And it happens a lot… not just to openSUSE distro users.

On 7/19/2010 12:57 PM, cjcox wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 18:56 +0000, juntunen wrote:
>> I am extremely disappointed in this 11.3 release.
>>
>> openSUSE had a system that worked. I never had a major problem with
>> the Nvidea video drivers before this release. When I did have a problem
>> with the drivers (usually because Nvidia screwed up) I was able to
>> easily use “The hard way” to install the drivers and all was good. But
>> now the system is so screwed up that the drivers wont install. I can’t
>> find a working Saxx2 anywhere. nvidia-settings won’t install from rpm.
>
> Well… while I too would like to place some blame at lack of sax2,
> there’s some blame that has to go to the Xorg folks who believe that
> their autodetection makes such tools obsolete (and obviously that is
> simply not true at all).
>
>> What the hell is going on? This release should have been held up until
>> this garbage was fixed. Novvaeu (sp?) won’t work for some of the
>> programs I want to run.
>
> Like any PROPRIETARY set of drivers, the ability to compile and use is
> controlled strictly by the vendor of the drivers and NOT by openSUSE or
> any other Linux distro.
>
> Lesson to learn, proprietary drivers are evil.
>
> Is there a good 3D soln for a Linux distro today? Possibly the answer
> to this is “no”, if you need a lot of power/flexibility.
>
>>
>> I probably changed so much stuff that I bet my system won’t boot now.
>> Oh and what happened to the lack of repair software on the install disk?
>> For two versions now the only repair option we have had is the command
>> line. That’s great if you use those tools on a regular or semi regular
>> basis. What about the other people?
>
> The good news is that you can always go back to 11.2.
>
> That’s what I usually do when something like this happens.
> And it happens a lot… not just to openSUSE distro users.
>
>

And so back to 11.2 I go.

On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 21:49 +0000, Mr. Beer wrote:

>
> And so back to 11.2 I go.

Keep you eye on the forums for when the Nvidia drivers compile ok with
11.3 or when they are made part of a community repo pull. Just be
warned that Nvidia is dropping a LOT of support for older cards.

cjcox wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 21:49 +0000, Mr. Beer wrote:
> …
>>
>> And so back to 11.2 I go.
>
> Keep you eye on the forums for when the Nvidia drivers compile ok with
> 11.3 or when they are made part of a community repo pull. Just be
> warned that Nvidia is dropping a LOT of support for older cards.

They did compile OK in 3 machines I installed 11.3 (all 64 bit architecture)
AND the repo driver also installed OK.

Cheers
-G-

On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 09:50 +0000, -G- wrote:
> cjcox wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 21:49 +0000, Mr. Beer wrote:
> > …
> >>
> >> And so back to 11.2 I go.
> >
> > Keep you eye on the forums for when the Nvidia drivers compile ok with
> > 11.3 or when they are made part of a community repo pull. Just be
> > warned that Nvidia is dropping a LOT of support for older cards.
>
> They did compile OK in 3 machines I installed 11.3 (all 64 bit architecture)
> AND the repo driver also installed OK.

Well… there ya go!! Good news indeed!